Eh? July 4th will be the 246th year since the British Colonies declared independence from the Crown. Technically speaking, independence was not even won until 1783. And the Crown did not really accept their loss of the colonies until after the war of 1812. Slavery was outlawed in 1865. So if you were to assume that the United States government had absolute control in 1776, there were a grand total of 89 years of slavery in the United States. If you assume 1783, then it's 82 years of slavery. If you assume 1812, when even the Crown finally relented and said, "Yeah, I guess they're their own thing now" then you're dropping all the way down to 53 years. And whether 89 or 53, that completely ignores that the Northern states had outlawed slavery incredibly quickly, ignores that 14 States were not even added as states until after Slavery had been outlawed federally...

Yes, slavery IS a "small" part of our short history, primarily focused around the slaver democrat south. Further attempts to exploit, harm, or at the very least separate, such as the KKK, Redlining, Jim Crowe Laws, and the establishment of the welfare state and intentional destruction of the Black nuclear family? All Democrat. We are aware of our short history, and a huge level of effort has been put in by many generations to weed out any last discriminatory aspects of the system.

By the late 90's and into the late 2000's, race relations had calmed down enough that numbers were looking great. Violent crime was down among all races, wealth was rising among all races, educational levels were rising among all races. Insert Obama, who had the opportunity to push the race baiting out of the public consciousness entirely, but instead very cynically made race, and specifically how horrible white people and police are, a central focus of his Presidency, and suddenly everyone wants to talk about slavery again. All while blaming Republicans, who were the new party reformed out of the Whigs, aka the party that defeated the south, preserved the union, and outlawed slavery.

Weird stuff, and no logical consistency. Let's not talk about the fact that Europeans, Asians, and Africans were practicing slavery for thousands of years either. No no, that's not convenient. Let's not talk that the majority of slavery practiced in the colony was at the behest and blessing of the Crown's governors, just like all the other colonies, and had there been no revolution, would have continued to at the least 1833, when the Crown outlawed it, and even then, the Crown imposed many of the same redlining laws, a black striking a white was still a jailable or possibly capital offense, etc. etc.

The world had slavery. The Republican party did not. So if you wish to have a "Fuck Slaver Democrats" holiday, be our guest, but it's kind of a strange position to take.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Jun 21 2022 05:39am

Juneteenth is a federal holiday in the United States commemorating the emancipation of enslaved African Americans. Juneteenth marks the anniversary of the announcement of General Order No. 3 by Union Army general Gordon Granger on June 19, 1865, proclaiming freedom for enslaved people in Texas.
The day was first recognized as a federal holiday in June 2021, when President Joe Biden signed the Juneteenth National Independence Day Act into law.

=> Fuck yes. When people here think about US history... Well, Slavery is an easy top 2:

1/ Idependence (by definition n°1 in almost all countries)
2/ End of Slavery

Saying slavery is a "small" part of US history is simply and plenty wrong, even weird and disturbing. It was a major historic economic pillar.

Btw the best way to "dig it" is to accept it, to classify it, ie as national holiday. I will not be here everytime to help you.

Joomteemf sounds like it was made by an illiterate hobo.

Why didn't they just call it Emancipation Day?

Would trigger riots everytime

If by "most people" you're referring to race baiters, sure.

As it turns out, when less than a third of your history involves slavery, you've only been around as a nation for 246 years, a quarter of your states weren't even part of the nation, industrialization had not yet occurred, there was no electric grid, fucking whales were still being hunted for whale oil lighting... Nothing I see today was built by slaves. At least, not black slaves. There's a question regarding Chinese Slavery/Indentured servitude on the West Coast, and many of the rail lines they built are still operational. However, white people didn't own the Chinese, or hold their indenture. Other Chinese held the indenture. And the Chinese are openly practicing slavery today with the Uyghurs. The hilarious part of that is that they're honest to god using them to harvest cotton. Like, wtf?

Industrialization of the states, the electric grids, nuclear fission, telephone communication, the television, the microchip, the solar panel, and let's not even go into the extreme level of focus and wealth we've poured into medical technology and pharmacology.

If you believe slavery defines the US, you are ignorant beyond any and all words.

I am ok with giving them a day.
The fact that day doesn't exist is even better.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/how-slavery-helped-build-a-world-economy

On the other hand it's true that chinese migrants worked very hard for rails, i think you also should have a day for this, maybe not holiday, just something like your mother's day.

Music ( jazz, beat?) would be much better than saint patrick.

Slavery still in lots of places, yet they are all shitholes.
Hmm.

The fact that one already exists four days later but they made another one and gave it a worse name makes it even funnier.

It's the gift that keeps on giving.