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Jun 16 2022 11:44am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Jun 16 2022 01:38pm)
two super corrupt and poor money dumps, exactly what the EU net contributors needed :rofl:

go ahead, do it, the sooner it will all come crashing down

i will say though that compared to the talk about turkey in the EU, that has been going on for a long time (dead at the moment), they at least have an actual claim here

i am suprised you are against it fender, usually you cant wait to just throw our money at everything and everyone

despite the promises an actual membership will take some years until it happens, but i am 100% certain that a shitload of money will flow before that


Russia vs Ukraine is an obvious agenda and ppl cant see it.
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Jun 16 2022 11:50am
Quote (SunnyvaleTrailerPark @ 16 Jun 2022 17:44)
Russia vs Ukraine is an obvious agenda and ppl cant see it.


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Jun 16 2022 12:12pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 16 Jun 2022 19:38)
two super corrupt and poor money dumps, exactly what the EU net contributors needed :rofl:

go ahead, do it, the sooner it will all come crashing down

i will say though that compared to the talk about turkey in the EU, that has been going on for a long time (dead at the moment), they at least have an actual claim here

i am suprised you are against it fender, usually you cant wait to just throw our money at everything and everyone

despite the promises an actual membership will take some years until it happens, but i am 100% certain that a shitload of money will flow before that


what are you even on about? i've repeatedly stated here that i opposed the EU's various eastern expansions, have criticised the financial sinkholes they have predictably become (while you shilled for their authoritarian regimes funded by our taxes), and have been vocal about the fact that europe had to bear the main financial burden of america's warmongering in the middle east (usually as a reply to the moronic talking point that we should pay for america's "protection"), taking in so many refugees, while they just closed their borders.

you're confusing two different things here. just because i am not a bigoted fool like you, who will be manipulated into hating the VICTIMS, the poor bastards who are suffering, doesn't mean i'm ok with the origins and general handling of such situations. we absolutely should leverage our economic power to insist that the rest of the world does its part.
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Jun 16 2022 12:29pm
Quote (fender @ Jun 16 2022 08:12pm)
what are you even on about? i've repeatedly stated here that i opposed the EU's various eastern expansions, have criticised the financial sinkholes they have predictably become (while you shilled for their authoritarian regimes funded by our taxes), and have been vocal about the fact that europe had to bear the main financial burden of america's warmongering in the middle east (usually as a reply to the moronic talking point that we should pay for america's "protection"), taking in so many refugees, while they just closed their borders.

you're confusing two different things here. just because i am not a bigoted fool like you, who will be manipulated into hating the VICTIMS, the poor bastards who are suffering, doesn't mean i'm ok with the origins and general handling of such situations. we absolutely should leverage our economic power to insist that the rest of the world does its part.


nice rant when i was being nice here, you just cant stop being toxic

your points fall through the gutter as always

you accuse me of "shilling" for certain governments just because they have the same opinion i have on third world trash migrants and their streets are still safe to walk compared to ours

and then you somehow attempt to connect that to your take on european finances to prove you right

you are not and its an empty argument, why? if you could read you would know that i oppose everything the EU is except free trade

money transfers etc should have NEVER happened so dont act like i ever supported this crap

and secondly, dont act like us taking in the tsunami of illegals was some kind of law of nature just because the real culprits didnt take them

we could and should have sent them all back, but certain people wanted this for certain reasons

you cant act like mister reasonable "i am against EU money transfers and illegal migration" and then insult others who have that exact stance...except that they are also serious about enforcing it

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Jun 16 2022 12:34pm
Our opinions are irrelevant as Ukraine is a sovereign nation and they are in favour of joining the EU

The EU adding a country of 40m people to its supercountry is good geopolitically long term. Cheaper grain exports will be conducive for autarky should there be a war that harms supply

If I were an EU citizen I would be in favour of it, a lot of Ukraine's rebuilding can occur with the $300bn+ of frozen Russian reserves anyway
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Jun 16 2022 12:39pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 16 Jun 2022 20:29)
nice rant when i was being nice here, you just cant stop being toxic

your points fall through the gutter as always

you accuse me of "shilling" for certain governments just because they have the same opinion i have on third world trash migrants and their streets are still safe to walk compared to ours

and then you somehow attempt to connect that to your take on european finances to prove you right

you are not and its an empty argument, why? if you could read you would know that i oppose everything the EU is except free trade

money transfers etc should have NEVER happened so dont act like i ever supported this crap

and secondly, dont act like us taking in the tsunami of illegals was some kind of law of nature just because the real culprits didnt take them

we could and should have sent them all back, but certain people wanted this for certain reasons

you cant act like mister reasonable "i am against EU money transfers and illegal migration" and then insult others who have that exact stance...except that they are also serious about enforcing it


who and which?

also, thanks for once again proving my point about one of us being dumb enough to be manipulated into hating the victims "third world trash migrants", while the other one focuses their criticism on what put them into the situation in the first place. this is one of the major differences between us.
finally, pretty amusing that you think LYING about my positions ("you cant wait to just throw our money at everything and everyone") is being "nice" - please refrain from "being nice" to me in the future, lol.
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Jun 16 2022 12:48pm
Quote (fender @ Jun 16 2022 08:39pm)
who and which?

also, thanks for once again proving my point about one of us being dumb enough to be manipulated into hating the victims "third world trash migrants", while the other one focuses their criticism on what put them into the situation in the first place. this is one of the major differences between us.
finally, pretty amusing that you think LYING about my positions ("you cant wait to just throw our money at everything and everyone") is being "nice" - please refrain from "being nice" to me in the future, lol.


you cant be from germany and seriously ask such a dumb question

who wanted this.....mmmh maybe globalist elites, the EU, big corporations, the political left that wants to destroy nation states, the asylum industry and more

just to name a few

but you seem to enjoy it, because you are more upset about me than massive migrant crime or incidents like at lake garda in italy
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Jun 16 2022 12:50pm
Quote (dro94 @ 16 Jun 2022 20:34)
Our opinions are irrelevant as Ukraine is a sovereign nation and they are in favour of joining the EU

The EU adding a country of 40m people to its supercountry is good geopolitically long term. Cheaper grain exports will be conducive for autarky should there be a war that harms supply

If I were an EU citizen I would be in favour of it, a lot of Ukraine's rebuilding can occur with the $300bn+ of frozen Russian reserves anyway


your opinion is (still interested in it anyway), since you're not a member any more, but eu citizens' opinion isn't.
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Jun 16 2022 12:54pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 16 Jun 2022 20:48)
you cant be from germany and seriously ask such a dumb question

who wanted this.....mmmh maybe globalist elites, the EU, big corporations, the political left that wants to destroy nation states, the asylum industry and more

just to name a few

but you seem to enjoy it, because you are more upset about me than massive migrant crime or incidents like at lake garda in italy


just wanted you to explicitly describe it for everyone to mock. of course i know what you people mean when you talk about "certain people" and "certain reasons", it's not like any of that has changed much in recent decades...

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