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May 31 2022 07:39pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ May 31 2022 06:37pm)
Imagine a worldview where it's imperative that you bow down to authority because you simply know that if you do not, they will kill or imprison you.

Imagine also willfully supporting the ability of those in power of that system further expanding their power and authority to prevent you from your own self preservation.

You're smart! Can I have an autograph?


I'm not advocating bowing down to anyone, just stating if the US military wanted to kill you, your AR-15 and camo pants aren't stopping them.
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May 31 2022 07:40pm
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I'm not advocating bowing down to anyone, just stating if the US military wanted to kill you, your AR-15 and camo pants aren't stopping them.


Guarantee these are the people that answer "Yes" when asked if they think they could be a lion in hand to hand combat.
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May 31 2022 07:46pm
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I'm not advocating bowing down to anyone, just stating if the US military wanted to kill you, your AR-15 and camo pants aren't stopping them.


Soldiers are deployed in the US a lot, are they? Not sure what world you're living in. What we're talking about is police. You know, the very same police you lot wanted to defund five seconds ago because they're racist, brutal, and out of control? Are you saying you want the police to be armed, and you not, when you clearly trust them so deeply, and it's your life, and the lives of your children at stake?
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May 31 2022 07:55pm
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Soldiers are deployed in the US a lot, are they? Not sure what world you're living in. What we're talking about is police. You know, the very same police you lot wanted to defund five seconds ago because they're racist, brutal, and out of control? Are you saying you want the police to be armed, and you not, when you clearly trust them so deeply, and it's your life, and the lives of your children at stake?


If the US government went tyrannical and wanted to crush you, the second amendment isn't going to stop them. Nor will the tradition of not mobilizing troops against American citizens in America. The second amendment isn't a defense against a tyrannical government anymore unless you can advocate for fighter planes and nukes being unregulated.
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May 31 2022 07:59pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ May 31 2022 08:46pm)
Soldiers are deployed in the US a lot, are they? Not sure what world you're living in. What we're talking about is police. You know, the very same police you lot wanted to defund five seconds ago because they're racist, brutal, and out of control? Are you saying you want the police to be armed, and you not, when you clearly trust them so deeply, and it's your life, and the lives of your children at stake?


Currently have guns....doing nothing, but somehow taking the guns away matters? Alright.
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May 31 2022 08:02pm
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If the US government went tyrannical and wanted to crush you, the second amendment isn't going to stop them. Nor will the tradition of not mobilizing troops against American citizens in America. The second amendment isn't a defense against a tyrannical government anymore unless you can advocate for fighter planes and nukes being unregulated.


Your belief that the troops, the officers, and the generals would all be willing to open fire on their neighbors is possibly misled.

It's also a talking point that's been repeated enough times that many of the states are looking at removing any federal control or backing from their National Guard units.

Point blank, the shit you're spouting is the kind of talk that leads people to prepare for war. And in a war, it's much better for a person to be armed than not, even if their intent is merely to survive.

So, gun control should never be supported, because when it's called for the most, is when self-preservation tends to be needed the most. :)
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May 31 2022 08:02pm
what gun nuts don't realise is that "the government" doesn't have anything to gain from coming to their place and arresting them. they are much more useful as gun-hoarding NPCs, directly financing their exploiters' donors, while quietly accepting every power grab, every surveillance measure, every disenfranchisement.

always funny to hear that tough talk about challenging authority from the people most eager to lick its boot. all someone has to do is tell them a lie about brown people, 'liberals', muslims... and they reveal they actually ARE the brownshirts they fantasise about standing up to.
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May 31 2022 08:05pm
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Your belief that the troops, the officers, and the generals would all be willing to open fire on their neighbors is possibly misled.

It's also a talking point that's been repeated enough times that many of the states are looking at removing any federal control or backing from their National Guard units.

Point blank, the shit you're spouting is the kind of talk that leads people to prepare for war. And in a war, it's much better for a person to be armed than not, even if their intent is merely to survive.

So, gun control should never be supported, because when it's called for the most, is when self-preservation tends to be needed the most. :)


Alright timmy settle down. You can't prepare for the inevitable because it'll happen regardless. If the US government decided it wanted to kill me tomorrow, there isn't much I could do to prepare. I don't prepare for the heat death of the universe, and I don't prepare for the day the US government marches on me to take away "muh rights".

This post was edited by Sioux on May 31 2022 08:08pm
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May 31 2022 08:06pm
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Your belief that the troops, the officers, and the generals would all be willing to open fire on their neighbors is possibly misled.

It's also a talking point that's been repeated enough times that many of the states are looking at removing any federal control or backing from their National Guard units.

Point blank, the shit you're spouting is the kind of talk that leads people to prepare for war. And in a war, it's much better for a person to be armed than not, even if their intent is merely to survive.

So, gun control should never be supported, because when it's called for the most, is when self-preservation tends to be needed the most. :)


Name checks out. Can't tell a hypothetical situation from your own delusions.
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May 31 2022 08:13pm
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Alright timmy settle down


Standard fallback for a weak-minded shill with no real point. Thanks for trying though.

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Name checks out. Can't tell a hypothetical situation from your own delusions.


There is no hypothetical involved in my statement. And "the federal government using troops against the people" isn't a realistic hypothetical.

A firearm is a source of everything from food to self preservation. That you believe, in your fairytale fluffy foofoo land of frills that others should not have access to this tool because you don't trust them with it? Too bad buttercup! Pull up your big girl panties, grow up, and shut the fuck up.

You do not control other people. The more you try, the more violent the backlash. There's a difference between trying to moderate behaviors and trying to remove a person's ability to preserve their own life and the lives of their families.

Then again, I'm guessing you're defending the cops that prevented the parents of elementary school children from saving their children... for an hour. Yes?
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