Quote (thundercock @ 27 May 2022 23:05)
There was some talk early on about herd immunity earlier on. Hell, I remember some conservatives wanting the virus to spread uncontrolled so that we could REACH herd immunity.
We need to be careful discussing this stuff with dishonest people. As we learn new information, we need to update our policies accordingly because that's how science is supposed to work. Dishonest people will gaslight us and pretend that our old policies are for current information and that our current policies are for old information. It's also possible that people are extraordinarily stupid and are incapable of working in a dynamic system.
I mean, can you blame people? First they claimed that covid was just like another flu; meanwhile, it has evolved into a form which is as mild as the flu. They claimed that the vacines wouldn't provide herd immunity in the sense of stopping onward transmission - first, we dealt with stronger variants (alpha and delta) than the vaccine was designed for and effectiveness against transmission went down from the promised 90-95% to 50-70% (making a mockery of concepts like the 'pandemic of the unvaccinated' or vaccine passports); then, the latest variant (omikron) was so resistant to antibodies that the vaccines barely provide any protection against transmission anymore.
So basically, the argument goes "all the things you said about covid and the vaccines have come true while all the things we claimed no longer apply... but your claims were wrong when you said them, and the situation now is totally different, so it is actually us who were right and you who were wrong". While technically correct, it should be easy to see what an incredibly weak position this is when you want to win a debate or convince folks.
This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 28 2022 06:18am