Quote (D_urRRR @ 22 May 2022 10:26)

The dems have never delivered positive results. Yet you still vote for them.

Quote (Skinned @ May 22 2022 06:31am)

This. The leak of the SCOTUS opinion attacking women's rights isn't going to help them in the mid-terms. Also sitting presidents usually get shellacked on their midterm election, so it would be normal for the GOP to win a lot of races in this situation, this is just American politics playing out.

But Trump would have cruised to reelection unless he actively worked to estrange himself from so many voters, which he did relentlessly. His antics do not get any new voters and only serve to turn them off. The Hunter Biden dick fiasco is something for the history books....nobody cares about Hunter Biden smoking crack in Ukraine with hookers as the sitting president was actually sued by a hooker for things months earlier so it was inconsequential.

We will see how much Trump is featured in this next election. Most Americans do not like him and at this point he is keeping the loyal based hyped up but not doing any favors to people running in elections where voters are moderate.

I would say the GOP needs to stay on message and avoid the Trump stuff but I don't think they have a message outside of Trump anymore.

The GOP today is like "we're going to stop the blacks, gays, working families, and liberals, from having good lives!". Not sure if that is a winning message. I'm not sure if any of the people who are simple enough to get upset at the CRT stuff are the kinds of people who vote....they seem like the "I don't need Obamacare because I have the affordable care act" kind of people. Make a bunch of facebook posts and act emotional etc.

We will see. Its Joe Biden and he sucks, but the alternative was Trump, in which he looks really really good compared to. We will see what the alternative vision is and if it has changed. If the GOP ends up running Trump again it will be because nobody in the GOP has the balls to say that the emperor has no clothes and was beaten by several million votes in an electoral landslide, and that the whole party has been lying to themselves about it ever since, and his nomination would be the codification of that psychosis.

Some people actually believe that Trump won the election over Joe Biden. These people are the GOPs biggest problem. The biggest gift the GOP could give to the Dems would be to keep this Trump train going past these mid terms and into another election. Its so much easier to attack people than institutions and he is such a narcissist he can't not take the bait. That is why Pelosi owned him in every interaction they've had and why he ends up with his tail between his legs when meeting european heads of state. Remember when he talked all that shit about Theresa May and acted like her pussycat in her presence? He can only punch down; you can't grab a more powerful person by the pussy.

Please keep the train going for another 4 and a half years.

Quote (Nibthebarb @ May 22 2022 11:14am)

We aren't seeing and hearing the same universe. A significant faction of the GOPe has made tremendous efforts to divest itself from Trump and Trumpism, and has had a very clear message - big tent, acting mature, back to normal, etc. An explicit appeal to voters turned off by Trump, namely suburban, college-educated white women. Neither the GOPe nor the Trump wing are doing anything to suggest they "don't want blacks gays etc" to have good lives - that's outdated, memetic liberal hysteria and wholly inaccurate. 4chan, sure, but nowhere in the halls of power.

Yes, CRT is enough for a huge amount of people, because of who pushes it, why, and everything else CRT is associated with. General hatred of whites. If you want any advice, the Democrats should stop with the anti-white message if they want to salvage their political fortunes this year.

You severely underestimate the star power Trump still holds. He is the leader of the GOP, for better or for worse, and not because of some manipulation or astroturfing - it's very real, and derives from the genuine sentiments of the biggest GOP voting blocs. I say that as a DeSantis guy acknowledging reality. Again, you're way off on your interpretation of Trump and Trumpism. It would help you to be realistic.

Quote (Skinned @ May 22 2022 11:38am)

CRT is a minor school of thought only offered in college in graduate level classes and has nothing to do with a general hatred of whites.

What is going on isn't anti-CRT because CRT isn't being taught in schools. What is happening is called Historical Revisionism, aka White Washing history. "He who controls the present controls the past. He who controls the past controls the future". The dudes who tried to keep the blacks from getting educations are now trying to prevent teaching that they did that stuff, with a lot of popular support, because there are a lot of dumb whites in America and the GOP is the party of them.

Quote (Skinned @ May 22 2022 12:38pm)

What is happening is called Historical Revisionism, aka White Washing history.

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Critical race theory (CRT) is a cross-disciplinary intellectual and social movement of civil-rights scholars and activists who seek to examine the intersection of race, society, and law in the United States and to challenge mainstream American liberal approaches to racial justice.

Quote (player11167 @ May 22 2022 12:18pm)

Not only is that untrue, even if it was true, that has literally nothing to do with CRT. That's what libs lie on the media to fool their brain dead viewers that that's what CRT is about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_race_theory#:~:text=Critical%20race%20theory%20(CRT)%20is,liberal%20approaches%20to%20racial%20justice.



It's this nonsense that there's unidentifiable "institutional racism" all around us because apparently that is the only possible explanation for why blacks in America have the worst achievements in education, employment, and entrepreneurship, and commit crimes at the highest rate.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ May 22 2022 01:26pm)

LOL @ it being unidentifiable. As recent as 2016 voting laws were struck down in North Carolina for being clearly and obviously racist. They requested demographic data and then specifically shut down polling sites and disallowed certain forms of identification based on racial demographics.

This is not some invisible boogeyman. It has never been particularly hard to see if you're willing to see it.

Quote (player11167 @ May 22 2022 12:29pm)

You let me know how a voting law in North Carolina is causing 50% of all homicides nationwide to be committed by blacks. Or why blacks have SIGNIFICANTLY lower rates of education and employment than whites, Asians, and pretty much everyone else.

Quote (Nibthebarb @ 22 May 2022 03:13)

Never underestimate the ability of the GOP to grasp defeat from the jaws of victory.