your trying to reason with people that are convinced dudes get pregnant?

wait, so you both "don't care" about my "worthless" opinion, but also want my to know my "personal definition" of murder? well, how about the opinions of great minds in the legal and ethic fields, which lead to an establishment of abortion rights in ALL modern societies around the world? you know, you could just ask google if you felt like a big boy who doesn't need the crayon version of everything.

surely it's not your intention to just bring forward dishonest appeals to emotion, based on medieval, religious fundamentalist world view, lack of scientific and legal understanding, and its utter disregard for women, right? for example, if some bigots in alabama simply wrote on a napkin that they "defined" a zygote as "person", that wouldn't magically erase and overturn the modern consensus (and the support of a large majority of people), and by default setting back women's rights by decades, correct? i mean, that'd be such an obviously ridiculous line of argument, that i couldn't even begin to imagine that's where you're going with this, right? after all, i know you as an open-minded and intellectually honest debater, who'd never.... oh wait, nvm...

some ppl...

In other words, you cannot define murder.

I understand your difficulty.

That's stupid, you can't murder something that hasn't been born yet. Why gaslight women about spiritual bullshit?

This post was edited by Skinned on May 4 2022 06:17pm

poor soul, you need the crayon version again. here we go: i can see where you're going with this, and it's obvious semantic bullshittery, trying to dress up your appeals to emotion. unfortunately for you, a majority of actual experts and scholars on the matter (not just MY worthless opinion), as well as large majorities of modern secular societies strongly disagree with your fundamentalist crap. i'm sure you'll have an easy time convincing taliban of your stance though, they agree with your world view, just don't mention the name of your imaginary friend, and you're golden...

Why not?

It's ok that you are unable to define murder.

it's NOT ok that YOU can't, and are willing to go full taliban on women because of it. it makes you a terrible person.

I most certainly can define murder. The question though is, when will you pony up yours?

no you can't, that's what your whole emotional appeal, which defies the consensus on that issue in every secular modern society, is based on. do you genuinely think that's somehow "clever" - even after i repeatedly called you out for it, lol?