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Apr 29 2022 08:38pm
These fanfics are getting out of hand.
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May 1 2022 12:27pm
Quote (Nibthebarb @ 30 Apr 2022 03:40)
Uhhh.....


Anyway, I will agree that there is a bizarre lack of giving a shit for the oceans of Ukrainian blood being spilled in the name of expanding the Western imperial sphere. Jingoists and imperialists come on here and celebrate every new daily headline that "Ukraine destroyed 11 billion Russian tanks!" knowing full well that every day Ukrainians are being thrown into the fucking meat grinder. Maybe because I have kids, I can't imagine having such a cavalier attitude toward sending young people to go die so that some old rich people can put another notch in their headboard.


So your suggestion for Ukraine people is to surrender, dig their grieves, go inside and wait for russians to execute them?
And then we repeat the whole process with other countries that Russia decides to attack next?
Thats the plan you got?
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May 1 2022 01:12pm
Quote (Ironfister @ May 1 2022 11:27am)
So your suggestion for Ukraine people is to surrender, dig their grieves, go inside and wait for russians to execute them?
And then we repeat the whole process with other countries that Russia decides to attack next?
Thats the plan you got?


Well, all of those words were typed by you, so no, that's not the "plan I got". I don't have the solution and neither do you. My stance is that the West largely provoked this war and knew full well they'd have Ukrainian bodies to sacrifice if Putin calls the bluff.
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Well, all of those words were typed by you, so no, that's not the "plan I got". I don't have the solution and neither do you. My stance is that the West largely provoked this war and knew full well they'd have Ukrainian bodies to sacrifice if Putin calls the bluff.


You were against sending Ukraine young men to die.
But really there were only 2 options for Ukraine:
-send the men to war
-surrender and beg for Putins mercy, which we all know he doesnt have.
So if you are against option 1), that leaves us with option 2), which is basically what I said.
There is a solution:
1) Send a lot of arms and other help to Ukraine, including heavy ones, so they can defend
2) stop trading with Russia, and get as many countries in world do so. Russia is heavily dependent on other countries making them payments for resources. Every dollar not sent to Russia helps the Ukraine war effort.
Pros:
1) There will be a longterm peace in Europe after Russia losses its teeth
2) no American/western blood spilled
3) Russia doesnt make many million UA people their slaves, which they could use to attack more countries next time.
4) Usa will get a solid boost as a true leader of the free world and savior of people.

This post was edited by Ironfister on May 1 2022 01:43pm
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So your suggestion for Ukraine people is to surrender, dig their grieves, go inside and wait for russians to execute them?
And then we repeat the whole process with other countries that Russia decides to attack next?
Thats the plan you got?


The real plan was that Ukrainians should've never listened to the US/Brits. Dont play games with demons, the house always wins.

And now they pay because play stupid games win stupid prizes

Because in the end its going to be like this and you and I both know it...and yet you had the audacity to post something about democracy /free world/savior.


you have destroyed or supported the destroyers of tens of millions of lives in the past decade alone..with very similar ponzi schemes that lead to mass destruction and yet you think it is good and for advancement of the free world....truly a demonic race of people Anglo kind is.




This post was edited by bioshocker on May 1 2022 02:07pm
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And here incase twitter is too much of a wordsalad. I probably shouldn't be digging as far back as 80 years ago because thats "ancient" history now but image is 100% on point

Never change Anglo



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The real plan was that Ukrainians should've never listened to the US/Brits. Dont play games with demons, the house always wins.

And now they pay because play stupid games win stupid prizes

Because in the end its going to be like this and you and I both know it...and yet you had the audacity to post something about democracy /free world/savior.


you have destroyed or supported the destroyers of tens of millions of lives in the past decade alone..with very similar ponzi schemes that lead to mass destruction and yet you think it is good and for advancement of the free world....truly a demonic race of people Anglo kind is.


https://i.imgur.com/hR1SRmp.jpg


When you are a country in eastern Europe, such as Ukraine or my country Poland, that was long time occupied and fucked by Russia, and taste freedom and joy for last 30years, you dont want to return to dark times.
Not to mention living in an evil Empire means you are helping the evil emperor enslave even more people.
Many people would rather die than help nazists/russists. Thats why UA is fighting back.
Russia aint much more powerful, this is not ussr anymore. And Ukrainians are much more motivated to defend, than Russia to attack, which even the odds.

This post was edited by Ironfister on May 1 2022 02:24pm
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May 1 2022 02:34pm
Just because we arrive at the same outcome doesn't mean we were guided here by intent or strategy.
Can you imagine that the same net result of US exerting more control over the EU and Ukrainians being blood sacrifices for the imperialists- could simply be the product of collective incompetence?
every action, every escalation, every provocation, is explicable in terms of corrupt self-interest, in terms of misguided idealism, in terms of kneejerk reactionary attitudes.

there is no puppet master pulling the strings. The non-western world is being alienated and the hegemony of the west is being undermined, our global influence broken up. The dollar is being stripped of its reserve currency status, our economy is suffering more than Russia's, we're dealing with dozens of simultaneous national crises, Israel and Mexico and India and the KSA/UAE are all warming to Russia and China and away from the US. Some politicians think it will help them get elected, some made a quick buck profiteering off the deaths of Ukrainians, most are just mindless chickens being led around by collective hysteria.

The real red pill isn't finding out that the world is run by a secret cabal of spooky jews in robes, its finding out that the world isn't being run at all

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When you are a country in eastern Europe, such as Ukraine or my country Poland, that was long time occupied and fucked by Russia, and taste freedom and joy for last 30years, you dont want to return to dark times.
Not to mention living in an evil Empire means you are helping the evil emperor enslave even more people.
Many people would rather die than help nazists/russists. Thats why UA is fighting back.
Russia aint much more powerful, this is not ussr anymore. And Ukrainians are much more motivated to defend, than Russia to attack, which even the odds.


Oh I see. Poland.

Look, I'm sorry your country's spawn location makes it destined to forever be a front line vassal to whoever owns you against whoever wants to own you. But that's not my problem. The West (American Empire) pushing further east into Asia is not in any way going to benefit the average American citizen's liberty, which is what I value. I don't value America being the "world leader" because I see the American regime as a far greater threat to human rights and liberty than any tinpot dictatorship or border dispute between two countries I do not remotely care about. I don't like that the war started, I don't like humanitarian crises, but we have enough problems at home.
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keyboard epilepsy IMO
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