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Mar 29 2022 05:03pm
Quote (fender @ Mar 30 2022 12:55am)
i know you reject experts, science, and common sense, have no empathy or compassion for people different than you in any way, shape, or form, and rather resort to asinine propaganda spins, but in reality it will:



also, for someone who pretends to reject the content of racist hate speech, but is just REALLY REALLY opposed to censorship of any kind, it shouldn't even matter what they personally think about the issue - as speech simply has to be protected. you don't want to tell me that it was always just a dumb excuse to defend racists and bigots that you actually agree with, do you? that you don't actually have a principled position at all, and couldn't give a shit about the concept of "free speech" when it's speech you simply disagree with? that you're just a mindless hack, completely caught up in culture war bs? that'd be sooooo unexpected, shocking really...


"marginalise lgbtq students"

you are talking about pink unicorns here, i am talking about KIDS in school

spare me your fake outrage, think back at your own school days, lets say 4th grade

did you think about gender identities or similar stuff at that age? do you know a single person that did?

we both know the answer is no

teach children math and leave them the fuck alone

Quote (IgoSoHard @ Mar 30 2022 01:03am)
This has literally nothing to do with saying the word “gay”. That’s become a very stupid platitude. There’s no reason why teachers should be having discussions about sexual orientation with a 4 or 5 year old. Period. That’s the job of a parent. Why are democrats such pedophiles ?


exactly, how is it possible to be so obsessed with sexualising kids?

This post was edited by JohnnyMcCoy on Mar 29 2022 05:04pm
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Mar 29 2022 05:06pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Mar 29 2022 07:03pm)
"marginalise lgbtq students"

you are talking about pink unicorns here, i am talking about KIDS in school

spare me your fake outrage, think back at your own school days, lets say 4th grade

did you think about gender identities or similar stuff at that age? do you know a single person that did?

we both know the answer is no

teach children math and leave them the fuck alone



exactly, how is it possible to be so obsessed with sexualising kids?


LGBT stuff isn't about sex, you guys are just perverts. You're literally the only ones sexualizing kids.

Kids other each other all the time.

Clutch your pearls more.

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Mar 29 2022 05:11pm
Quote (IgoSoHard @ 30 Mar 2022 01:03)
This has literally nothing to do with saying the word “gay”. That’s become a very stupid platitude. There’s no reason why teachers should be having discussions about sexual orientation with a 4 or 5 year old. Period. That’s the job of a parent. Why are democrats such pedophiles ?


i know you people aren't exactly critical thinkers or even just reasonably intelligent, but talking about lgbtq issues has literally nothing to do with paedophilia. also, if there actually was a link between party affiliation and sexual misconduct / paedophilia, the numbers clearly suggest it's significantly more widespread amongst conservatives.

be that as it may, it's perfectly legal to be so narrow-minded that you think educators should NEVER ever mention any word related to sexual orientation, but surely you wouldn't support a LAW that limits free speech, right?
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Mar 29 2022 05:13pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 29 Mar 2022 15:41)
absolute clown world when protecting children from lgbtq garbage is somehow controversial

based desantis :hail:


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Mar 29 2022 05:18pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 30 Mar 2022 01:03)
"marginalise lgbtq students"

you are talking about pink unicorns here, i am talking about KIDS in school

spare me your fake outrage, think back at your own school days, lets say 4th grade

did you think about gender identities or similar stuff at that age? do you know a single person that did?

we both know the answer is no

teach children math and leave them the fuck alone



exactly, how is it possible to be so obsessed with sexualising kids?


first of all, you clearly have no clue what's ACTUALLY happening in classrooms, and just uncritically bought into the BS culture war narratives, fear-mongering about paedophiles (?!) trying to mess with kids' sexual orientation for some reason (?!), even though there is literally NOTHING that suggests this is actually happening.
secondly, i thought you people loved "free speech" so much that you're willing to protect it even if you don't agree with it? so you're admitting that it always was about protecting racist hate speech? i am sooooo schocked, who would have thought?
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Mar 29 2022 05:22pm
Quote (fender @ Mar 30 2022 01:18am)
first of all, you clearly have no clue what's ACTUALLY happening in classrooms, and just uncritically bought into the BS culture war narratives, fear-mongering about paedophiles (?!) trying to mess with kids' sexual orientation for some reason (?!), even though there is literally NOTHING that suggests this is actually happening.
secondly, i thought you people loved "free speech" so much that you're willing to protect it even if you don't agree with it? so you're admitting that it always was about protecting racist hate speech? i am sooooo schocked, who would have thought?


free speech and indoctrinating children with inappropriate garbage are not even the same discussion

teach children math and writing and leave the rest to their parents

end of story
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Mar 29 2022 05:31pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 30 Mar 2022 01:22)
free speech and indoctrinating children with inappropriate garbage are not even the same discussion

teach children math and writing and leave the rest to their parents

end of story


again, you very obviously have no clue what's ACTUALLY happening in classrooms. literally NOTHING suggests children are being "indoctrinated" with "inappropriate garbage". that's a completely made up narrative to make gullible morons support the restriction of free speech, in order to further marginalise a small minority of people. it's pure culture war bullshit that only stupid people would fall for, with no facts whatsoever to back it up. anyone dumb enough to uncritically support this clearly doesn't give a shit about free speech, and their pearl clutching over racists being censored on private platforms was clearly in support of their hate speech, not some principled stance on speech itself.
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Mar 29 2022 05:32pm
Don't think any speech should be barred from classroom, but I agree this isn't necessarily a classroom topic. Or at least not something i'd pay for my kids to be indoctrinated in.

Fender is a known hack, so I don't trust his spins on the issue.
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Mar 29 2022 05:34pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Mar 29 2022 06:22pm)
free speech and indoctrinating children with inappropriate garbage are not even the same discussion

teach children math and writing and leave the rest to their parents

end of story


That's how you get boomers who totally wreck everything. Your approach didn't work, and lead to a generation destroying the country with their selfishness.
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Mar 29 2022 05:35pm
Quote (WiziLiCe @ Mar 29 2022 04:32pm)
Don't think any speech should be barred from classroom, but I agree this isn't necessarily a classroom topic. Or at least not something i'd pay for my kids to be indoctrinated in.

Fender is a known hack, so I don't trust his spins on the issue.


We definitely need more racist xenophobic transphobes to come chime in though.
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