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Jan 3 2022 09:49am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jan 3 2022 09:39am)
Nah. I'm radically more productive. Bezos isnt producing things. He hires people to do that for him. Youre confusing his leaching productivity from others for producing things himself.


Sounds like communism.
Not calling anyone comrade.
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Jan 3 2022 10:35am
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Sounds like communism.
Not calling anyone comrade.


If every billionaire died tomorrow the productive capacity of the economy would be totally unchanged.

That's a hard truth most people don't want to hear or understand.
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Jan 3 2022 10:50am
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Tell me why you feel the way you do and how you believe it will go if you get your answer.
If option 4 was chosen please lead your post with your (Blank) reasoning.
Discuss my friends. I need some diverse opinions to think about while at work.



The liberals should move to Cali and the conservatives should head to Florida and Texas.
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Jan 3 2022 10:51am
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If every billionaire died tomorrow the productive capacity of the economy would be totally unchanged.

That's a hard truth most people don't want to hear or understand.


The capacity of producing carbon would significantly be reduced though ! :P

(especially with Bezo's space tourism investments: 0 productivity 100% waste)

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Jan 3 2022 10:52am
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If every billionaire died tomorrow the productive capacity of the economy would be totally unchanged.

That's a hard truth most people don't want to hear or understand.


I understand and agree actually.
Just don't want anything to do with communism.
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Jan 3 2022 11:04am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jan 3 2022 10:18am)
Why do you need to replace them? Their money doesnt go away and neither do their factories. If Jeff Bezos dies tomorrow Amazon will continue as though nothing happened.


Ok but eat the rich means someone must "consume" them and take over. Who will step into their place and continue to add the value? I do agree with Bezos being a leech as he no longer is doing anything but profiting off his old position. This is basically my first venture into PARD and I know absolutely nothing about the people in this community. I'm here for discussion with different minds and am extremely open to having my views changed.

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Jan 3 2022 11:06am
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The liberals should move to Cali and the conservatives should head to Florida and Texas.


This is mostly happening as we speak. Except, in at least one instance, I saw one "liberal" of notoriety coming to Florida while saying it's no better than where they've left from.
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Jan 3 2022 11:07am
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I understand and agree actually.
Just don't want anything to do with communism.


I'd like to second this point.
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Jan 3 2022 11:09am
Quote (Knoppie @ Jan 3 2022 11:51am)
The capacity of producing carbon would significantly be reduced though ! :P

(especially with Bezo's space tourism investments: 0 productivity 100% waste)


The ozone layer has apparently healed from damage before my time. Do you really think that carbon emissions are a huge factor in the human races ability to thrive later on?
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Jan 3 2022 11:20am
Before the first civil war, the north had a base of mechanized production, supply lines and raw material mining operations already in place, on top of being large amounts of personal farmlands. The south had plantations and slave labor.
Today the political divisions in America are between liberal urban areas which are densely populated, completely dependent on imports and have almost zero manufacturing, instead being mostly service side industry and white collar- and the rural areas and farther suburbs which have the entirety of the production sector, farming, transportation, power infrastructure, etc.

The United States cannot split apart on political divisions because one side is completely dependent on the other. Its like the pre-communist revolution societies where the bourgeoisie cannot exist without the support of their vassal working class, who are undergoing rapidly deteriorating economic conditions. The difference is that the "parasites" have convinced themselves that they are the oppressed and blame the people even richer then themselves, like the post-communist revolution societies where everyone who owns one more cow than you is a kulak.

America can't have a revolution or divorce or reformation at this point, but it could still collapse into disfunction, anarchy and famine. Everyone blessed to live in a time of prosperity doesn't think its possible until it happens. Even if we've made ourselves immune to the classical crop failures of a year of drought that ancient civilizations had to grapple with, we're still vulnerable to system failures of overpopulation, broken supply lines, counterproductive bureaucracy, etc. This year we struggled to find toilet paper on shelves. If enough people don't show up to work and inflation skyrockets enough and crime keeps spiraling, it could reach a breaking point where you can't find food on shelves. And when that happens, the cities starve. It would have been unthinkable doomsaying before Covid
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