Quote (Sh00p @ Dec 19 2021 01:43am)

Waiting for tistuff's input as he is a reasonable person.

Quote (Sioux @ Dec 19 2021 10:28am)

The data on the severity of omicron infection is still unclear. The percent of South Africa that is predicted to have previously contacted covid or is vaccinated is much higher than the US or much of the Western world. The data demonstrates the variant infect people with covid antibodies, but the data on how sick people who have no innate covid immunity isn't the yet.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 19 Dec 2021 10:57)

In this instance, the public health modelers have demonstrably been alarmist and one-sided, their approach is actively violating scientific ethics. I don't see how calling this out contradicts a pro-science stance. By contrast, accepting transgressions of scientific ethics in favor one's preferred policy decisions is an anti-science stance.



During the pandemic, I am indeed frequently calling out predictions which keep erring on the side of utmost caution while previous experience throughout he pandemic has repeatedly proven their level of caution to be unjustified. For example when scientists keep forecasting a need for lockdowns to avoid total disaster based on a momentary R_t of 1.1 while R_t has already been falling for weeks. (That's what actually happened here in Germany during last spring when modellers were prognosticating that only a hard, federal lockdown law could prevent 7-day incidences of 2000, followed by the curve already being broken and peaking at around 150 before this law was even implemented and taking effect.)

Quote (sirthom @ Dec 19 2021 01:05pm)

You are the pandemic.

The vax is to get rid of the virus...you.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 19 2021 03:36am)

If the data is still unclear, why doesn't the report acknowledge this fact and present the true range of plausible outcomes, instead focusing exclusively on worse- and worst-case scenarios, some of which can be assumed to be magnitudes less likely than the "milder virulence, no lockdown needed"-scenario that was omitted?

Quote (sirthom @ Dec 19 2021 08:12am)

Manipulated data designed exclusively for gullible midwits.
You know, the not dumb.
But the trust the science types.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Dec 19 2021 08:14am)

Funny because the only cases we have of manipulated data are Republicans manipulating mortality and infectivity data in places like Florida to downplay Covid as it destroys their state.