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Dec 11 2021 01:07am
Quote (WickedDarkJuggalos @ 10 Dec 2021 22:49)
Giving me examples of republicans who committed sex crimes does not answer my question. You just gave as many examples going back over a decade as there are current republicans in the senate, and a few more. Bravo. I am 100% positive if I spent time digging I could bring a list just as long as Democratic affiliated people committing similar crimes. I could hypothesize the Epstein maxwell situation alone could bring a larger list than you just brought. So thank you for a list of scumbags, it is completely irrelevant to this topic.

Maybe we can bring a list of how many teachers had sex with students and from now until the end of time say all teachers are sex offenders to win arguments. Okay.

Maybe we can bring a list of how many retail workers steal from their employers, and say all retail workers are thieves to get an up in an argument.


I was just going for an easy dunk on helical.

Politics are filled with power hungry psychopaths and democrats have their own share of corrupt pieces of shit, I mean it is the party full of shit libs and I'm 100% on board for locking up any pedos we can find in their ranks.
However, I will contend that even given how shit the dems are they tend to be more responsive to dealing with sexual abusers, pedos, and other criminals within their ranks. Like look at the Cuomos, both given the boot and it wasn't like there wasn't internal party pressure driving their ousting.

Quote (WickedDarkJuggalos @ 10 Dec 2021 22:49)

My question is how can you take a single event and use that to demonize an entire group of people. This example being one of the worst crimes you can commit in a civilized world.

I know the answer, and you cannot be a serious person and do this. My larger point is that it is absurd to play childish games like this. I can tell by join dates that most of us are well into adulthood, but still act like fucking children. Demonizing millions of people because of the actions of a handful. I wanted y’all to come to that conclusion yourselves, but I can see where this topic is headed.

I am not sorry if this stings, that kind of immature bullshit says a lot about where some of you are coming from, and your willingness to adapt to different ideas.


I think you'd be getting pretty wooshed if you couldn't see this thread is a counter to the Smollett thread and the entire point is exactly your bolded question.
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Dec 11 2021 01:21am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 11 Dec 2021 03:58)
Duggar is a Republican.

That was easy


Not a statistical argument.




The true answer is that Duggar comes from a family which is a living caricature of hardline, bigoted Christian zealots from the boonies, so that it's quite the irony when one of their meticulously drilled little offspring turns out to be a nasty pedo. Liberals can live out their prejudices vicariously by watching the Duggars, so seeing these prejudices confirmed is satisfying to them.

It's a similar concept to when right-wingers jump like rabid dogs at various statements or transgressions from Pelosi or Ilhan Omar, who are embodiments of their prejudices about out of touch coastal elites or migrants/muslims.

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Not a statistical argument.

The true answer is that Duggar comes from a family which is a living caricature of hardline, bigoted Christian zealots from the boonies, so that it's quite the irony when one of their meticulously drilled little offspring turns out to be a nasty pedo. Liberals can live out their prejudices vicariously by watching the Duggars, so seeing these prejudices confirmed is satisfying to them.

It's a similar concept to when right-wingers jump like rabid dogs at various statements or transgressions from Pelosi or Ilhan Omar, who are embodiments of their prejudices with respect to out of touch coastal elites or migrants/muslims.


Shush. I just like making fun of Wicked. He gets angry easily and isn't very smart.

The question was "how does this implicate any Republican" and the answer is "because the perpetrator is a Republican". I get to be a snarky ass and be totally in the right as he dances around the issue.
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 10 Dec 2021 23:23)
Shush. I just like making fun of Wicked. He gets angry easily and isn't very smart.

The question was "how does this implicate any Republican" and the answer is "because the perpetrator is a Republican". I get to be a snarky ass and be totally in the right as he dances around the issue.


Don't be too hard on him. With my experience since coming back he seems to be one of the few conservatives who will actually attempt to have something approaching a good faith discussion.
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Dec 11 2021 01:32am
Quote (WickedDarkJuggalos @ Dec 11 2021 05:49pm)
Giving me examples of republicans who committed sex crimes does not answer my question. You just gave as many examples going back over a decade as there are current republicans in the senate, and a few more. Bravo. I am 100% positive if I spent time digging I could bring a list just as long as Democratic affiliated people committing similar crimes. I could hypothesize the Epstein maxwell situation alone could bring a larger list than you just brought. So thank you for a list of scumbags, it is completely irrelevant to this topic.

Maybe we can bring a list of how many teachers had sex with students and from now until the end of time say all teachers are sex offenders to win arguments. Okay.

Maybe we can bring a list of how many retail workers steal from their employers, and say all retail workers are thieves to get an up in an argument.

My question is how can you take a single event and use that to demonize an entire group of people. This example being one of the worst crimes you can commit in a civilized world.

I know the answer, and you cannot be a serious person and do this. My larger point is that it is absurd to play childish games like this. I can tell by join dates that most of us are well into adulthood, but still act like fucking children. Demonizing millions of people because of the actions of a handful. I wanted y’all to come to that conclusion yourselves, but I can see where this topic is headed.

I am not sorry if this stings, that kind of immature bullshit says a lot about where some of you are coming from, and your willingness to adapt to different ideas.


Qanon accused everyone on the left of it WITHOUT even one case to support the theory.
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Quote (LouisLeGros @ Dec 11 2021 01:27am)
Don't be too hard on him. With my experience since coming back he seems to be one of the few conservatives who will actually attempt to have something approaching a good faith discussion.


Disagree. He's said point blank that he won't interact with sources that counteract his personal experience. Not honest IMO.
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Dec 11 2021 01:42am
Quote (WickedDarkJuggalos @ Dec 10 2021 10:49pm)
Demonizing millions of people because of the actions of a handful. I wanted y’all to come to that conclusion yourselves, but I can see where this topic is headed.


When the point hits you in the fucking face and you still miss
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When the point hits you in the fucking face and you still miss


He's on the same level as Bob but with slightly more control over his anger.
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Quote (LouisLeGros @ Dec 11 2021 02:07am)
I was just going for an easy dunk on helical.

Politics are filled with power hungry psychopaths and democrats have their own share of corrupt pieces of shit, I mean it is the party full of shit libs and I'm 100% on board for locking up any pedos we can find in their ranks.
However, I will contend that even given how shit the dems are they tend to be more responsive to dealing with sexual abusers, pedos, and other criminals within their ranks. Like look at the Cuomos, both given the boot and it wasn't like there wasn't internal party pressure driving their ousting.



I think you'd be getting pretty wooshed if you couldn't see this thread is a counter to the Smollett thread and the entire point is exactly your bolded question.



I made this in part because of the conversation you and I were having in that thread. It became derailed by “republicans are pedophiles”.

I have tried to have honest conversations with every user on this sub, minus the obvious assholes who come here to say dumb shit like this, and almost every single time the argument gets reduced to an elementary school lunch table level conversation.

I personally never tried to make smolette about the democrats, making it very clear it is about how dishonest and agenda driven 9/10 media outlets are.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Dec 11 2021 02:34am)
Disagree. He's said point blank that he won't interact with sources that counteract his personal experience. Not honest IMO.



I have said I will not allow your sources pulled up specifically to discredit me to erase my relevant first hand knowledge. You are welcome to stop trying to engage with me, apparently you are incapable of taking a hint. Go make more Holocaust jokes and jerk yourself off in somebody else’s topic.

Quote (Plaguefear @ Dec 11 2021 02:32am)
Qanon accused everyone on the left of it WITHOUT even one case to support the theory.



Qanon are just some dumbass outcast conspiracy people. Nobody has ever heard of them until a few reporters realized they were complete fucking morons who liked Donald Trump, so they would continuously ask him to endorse them during press conferences as a set up. Then of course there were a few of them at the capitol riot so the media ran story after story about them for two straight weeks. Be real guy. Qanon is for show.

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Dec 11 2021 02:39am
Quote (WickedDarkJuggalos @ 11 Dec 2021 00:00)
I made this in part because of the conversation you and I were having in that thread. It became derailed by “republicans are pedophiles”.

I have tried to have honest conversations with every user on this sub, minus the obvious assholes who come here to say dumb shit like this, and almost every single time the argument gets reduced to an elementary school lunch table level conversation.

I personally never tried to make smolette about the democrats, making it very clear it is about how dishonest and agenda driven 9/10 media.


I'd imagine a lot of the responses were more focused on others and not you. You may not have been making it about the democrats, but others clearly were. I'd imagine many of us have given up on even attempting to have discussions with some of those individuals & instead resort to satire & mockery to make a point to another audience.


Those identifying with the left are typically going to despise mainstream media. It is a product of a capitalist system, often times pushing clicks/views over substance in a manner that would likely overlap with your mentioned dishonest & agenda driven critique.

Those identifying with the left are also going to typically be more focused on class consciousness & hence the notion that they give a shit about Smollett is going to be perceived as dumb. Like I was saying in that thread for me the case seems fit for something trash tabloid media & I was taking issue with conservative media treating it as serious.

I mean I'm down for critique of the mainstream media for pushing sensationalism & their corporate bias pushing the narrative of the liberal capitalist elite. I take issue when the alignment of that media is attributed toward leftism... particularly when it is coming from people who uncritically lap up even worse media from the right.
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