How much math do people really need? Most jobs don’t require a high level of math. But, math challenges peoples’ brains. The dumbing down is an indication of fear, that someone at the top think that people are too smart and well informed. It’s not a solution and it never was. But for them at the top, it is a solution.

Math can and should be used more in adult life. It’s how you time your commute to show up on time. It’s how you gauge speed and know if you can safely change lanes or if you’ll cause a car crash. Percentages of income identify how you spend, what you can save, and how much you need to earn to support various lifestyles. Math is everywhere. What a shame whole generations will remain stupid in the technical definition.

Sure there’s trigonometry (cutting circles to define area and volume) and calculus, deep rooted fundamental math of shapes and waves like a sine wave for a basic electrical/audio measurement. The up and down wave in a graph. Are they necessary to most? No. Do they require and teach you to expand critical thinking skills and evaluation of the world around you? Yes.

Thinking is under attack.

A national education starts with a standardized set of knowledge students are supposed to know prior to graduation. Need a common core of knowledge for American education.

It is crazy that one side says math is too racist to teach because of pronouns or something and the Right is saying our history is too racist to teach truthfully so we have to lie to kids because they're embarrassed and murica is gud.

I can't wait for like 5 years down the road when this pronoun trend is over. The Right will still keep trying to gaslight students and say segregation didn't happen or Plessy v Ferguson was a good ruling or that slavery wasn't as bad as they said because who beats up their nice car?

I never heard of the Tulsa Race Massacre the the destruction of black wall street until a television show, so the anti-CRT crowd has been gaslighting for a long-time now.

I agree with Goomshill on this subject, the anti-intellectualism of politics is pervasive.

I don't know if I believe in gifted kids. I've interacted with a lot of gifted kids and a lot of them are really good at math but not so good at talking to people and lack emotional intelligence. It is like calling an autistic savant gifted, that is framing. A lot of these gifts come with a mental rigidity that doesn't come with a healthy mind.

It wouldn't hurt schools to teach non-white knowledge sometimes though. I know this is offensive to a lot of people like Goom that schools not EXCLUSIVELY teach the history of anglos, language of anglos, philosophy of the white males, musical history of european art, etc.

Not sure if calculus is important in high school. Seems like something you can learn in college if you're going to be advanced at that stuff. I agree with Soviet education with this, shouldn't be trying to teach every american kid calculus, there are better things to learn that are actually useful in life.



Goom is right on the math denial problem. Biden beat Trump by seven MILLION votes yet half the country struggle with numerical facts and are indeed completely retarded. Or Gifted. However you want to frame it. Functional in their own special way

This post was edited by Skinned on Nov 25 2021 09:31am

The worse public education becomes, the more impermeable the headstart of the children from rich families who can send their kids to private schools will be. It's the secret sauce that has kept the United Kingdom a strictly class-based society for centuries in spite of democratization, expansion of the social safety net, more workplace safety protocols and so on.

Dumbing down the curricula of public schools is not only bad for the country in terms of international competitiveness, it's also poison for social mobility. Not providing the children of low- and middle-class backgrounds with a good education will reinforce, rather than reduce, social inequality in the long run.



And this attitude gets you threads like this:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=90314066&f=119


This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 25 2021 09:59am

Of course. Math is hard.

China has beaten us in schooling ever since your great grandfather has been alive. Dumbass gatta dumbass.

but putting money into education is communism
ofc

op and alot of users in this thread should ask themselves that question

Math's been racist for years, ask the folks in Seattle

liberals