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Recency bias and politics flavor these ratings too much, even ancient history isnt exempt. Andrew Jackson was a populist who attacked corrupt centralized institutions but he was also harsh and led the trail of tears. Abraham Lincoln was a skilled political navigator and wartime commander but his election fractured a country and he was more willing to be a tyrant and dictator than to make concessions. His end to slavery and new union was forged in cannonfire and not so harmonious.

Im pretty sure the worst would go to one of those inept corrupt presidents from the teapot dome era or whatever whos name Ive forgotten
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Quote (thesnipa @ 31 Aug 2021 22:17)
Worst: Andrew Jackson, Jimmy Carter, and a 4 way tie for the real worst Zachary Taylor, Millard Fillmore, Franklin Pierce, and James Buchanan for allowing the Civil War to happen.

Best: George Washington (started the step down after 2 tradition), Jefferson (purchased the best real estate deal ever plus liked ethnic women), Lincoln (yup), and as a write in based on his best in modern times label George HW Bush for getting into a modern war and back out without fucking america.


Bush Sr. was a foreign policy success, but a failure on domestic policies and the economy.


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Probably James Buchan. Dude refused to challenge the spread of slavery, fucked up the 'Dred Scott' case, & basically left the Union in such a fucked up spot, that the Civil War soon followed.

He's also interestingly enough the only POTUS to never get married

I think a case can be made for Andrew Johnson. He led an extremely corrupt administration and deliberately sabotaged reconstruction. Without him, there's a chance for lasting social progress in the South and for blacks to not suffer through a century of Jim Crow. A more successful reconstruction would also have had endless amounts of knock-on effects. A South which uses the potential of its black residents instead of wasting resources to maintain a regime of social and economic apartheid would have decreased regional polarization in U.S. politics to this day and prevented a lot of bad politicians and even presidents from coming to power.

Also, while Buchanan was clearly a failure, I think one can argue that the Civil War had already become inevitable by the time he took office. A different guy in his shoes could have delayed the Civil War by another couple of years, but I'm not sure anyone could have averted it by that point.

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Quote (Santara @ Aug 31 2021 04:08pm)
Worst: FDR, Wilson, LBJ.
Best: Harrison, Coolidge, Jefferson.


This

Although Andrew Jackson will always be my eternal #1.

Won 70 duels. Defeated the British with an army of pirates. Eternal giga chad.

Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 31 2021 07:06pm)
Andrew Jackson led the trail of tears.


They deserved it.

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Abraham Lincoln was a skilled political navigator and wartime commander but his election fractured a country and he was more willing to be a tyrant and dictator than to make concessions


Correct. The union army slaughtered women and children.

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still 10000 times better than biden. At least trump isn't a coward and can speak for himself and walk up steps. I lose intelligence every time I hear Biden speak.

Biden and Obama are the worst present day. Only a fool would vote for these people. Biden = biggest joke of all time. They should do him like sadam hussaine and execute him on live tv.
Then when the marines bury him they should all look at their watch like they dont got time for this shit.
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still 10000 times better than biden. At least trump isn't a coward and can speak for himself and walk up steps. I lose intelligence every time I hear Biden speak.

Biden and Obama are the worst present day. Only a fool would vote for these people. Biden = biggest joke of all time. They should do him like sadam hussaine and execute him on live tv.
Then when the marines bury him they should all look at their watch like they dont got time for this shit.


Reported the FBI and Secret Service.
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Reported the FBI and Secret Service.


Wait til they hear I refuse to get the shot too lol
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