Quote (thundercock @ Jul 24 2021 08:48pm)
We've won most of our wars. Outside of Vietnam, which did we "lose?"
We just spent 20+ years tactically masturbating in the Middle-East for literally no gain what so ever.
And yes, we got shredded by the Asians in Vietnam - it wasn't even close. America was fighting superstitious pigmies who were using 18th century tech at a 150IQ level - and lost.
Its also hard to call WW2 a victory, because is it really victory when we consider that Germany is a comparatively tiny nation that was fighting pretty much everybody? America lost - from a tactical perspective, yes.. they technically leaned enough weight on the Germans to cause them to collapse, but many historians are in full agreement that if Hitler weren't so reckless, the war would have gone far differently - likely resulting in an American defeat, or at least a stalemate where America could never invade Europe.
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jul 24 2021 08:46pm)
It's normal to take disproportionate losses when you are pushing against defenders, and when you have overwhelming force it's foolish to let up on high casualties if the opponent can't sustain their ranks and you can.
The U.S. role in WW2 was much more significant in the Pacific. We didn't really win WW2 in Europe but we definitely helped.
And yeah I definitely agree with this. The attacker will always take disproportionate losses and that was to be expected, but Eisenhower's deceit of the men under his command was appalling - he should have been marshaled for convincing them that they would be protected at Normandy, instead of being thrown into a meat grinder of attrition. This kind of arrogance plagues the command of the US military and can only result in a loss against a foe like China, who would use all of the same asymmetrical tactics that crushed us in Vietnam, except with the backing of a super power's economy and numbers.