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Jul 13 2021 01:45pm
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China, all of the Soviet satellite states, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam. It is indisputable fact that communism did in fact vastly reduce poverty rates everywhere it was tried.


China is more Capitalist than us in 2021. The CCP/Chinese Communist Party is one of the biggest trolls in history.

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Quote (inkanddagger @ Jul 13 2021 08:41pm)
China, all of the Soviet satellite states, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam. It is indisputable fact that communism did in fact vastly reduce poverty rates everywhere it was tried.


south america as well :)
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China is more Capitalist than us in 2021. The CCP/Chinese Communist Party is one of the biggest trolls in history.


They literally shot a billionaire last year.
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Quote (SanduLungu @ Jul 13 2021 11:55am)


uh oh you just posted an image of muhammad now njaguar is going to get jihad fatwa
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They literally shot a billionaire last year.


one of my managers went to shenzen multiple times. mostly lambos and ferraris on the streets.

he said you can do anything in China as long as you follow two simple rules:

you don't break their laws
you respect the ruling party
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Jul 13 2021 04:22pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ 13 Jul 2021 21:41)
China, all of the Soviet satellite states, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam. It is indisputable fact that communism did in fact vastly reduce poverty rates everywhere it was tried.


Not in the long run though. The Soviet Union and it's satellites collapsed economically in 89/90 and their people suffered a steeeep decline in their standard of living from which they still have not recovered to this day. Same story in Venezuela and Argentina when they tried communist or far-left economic policies.

Communism in China was an abject failure which culminated in the Great Leap Forward (into mass famine and 50m casualties) before the country embraced capitalist policies under Deng Xiaoping and started to flourish. Dito for Vietnam, which is successful with a state capitalism model similar to China's. Laos and Cambodia remain poorhouses.
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Jul 13 2021 05:50pm
found saucions ancestors
https://www.jstor.org/stable/260642
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Jul 13 2021 05:46pm)
They literally shot a billionaire last year.


Its the best of both worlds.

They have more billionaires.

But when they misbehave, they get lynched in public.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 13 2021 05:22pm)
Not in the long run though. The Soviet Union and it's satellites collapsed economically in 89/90 and their people suffered a steeeep decline in their standard of living from which they still have not recovered to this day. Same story in Venezuela and Argentina when they tried communist or far-left economic policies.

Communism in China was an abject failure which culminated in the Great Leap Forward (into mass famine and 50m casualties) before the country embraced capitalist policies under Deng Xiaoping and started to flourish. Dito for Vietnam, which is successful with a state capitalism model similar to China's. Laos and Cambodia remain poorhouses.


I mean, when you look at "long term" you have to contend with the U.S. actively destabilizing their governments.

It's hard to tell if these systems would have worked in the long term if they were actually left alone.
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Jul 13 2021 06:59pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jul 13 2021 05:46pm)
They literally shot a billionaire last year.


Is that where Jack Ma went?
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