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Jul 6 2021 09:21pm
Quote (GameCrazy9000 @ Jul 6 2021 10:18pm)
Not me particularly.

But in truth, there are opposites but no opposition.

There is you. There is me. But there is no opposition. Then, there's truth.

But if there's opposition, one doesn't find truth in it.

So what is the Truth?


If someone finds the vaccine to be true:

there are opposites: there's the person. there's the vaccine. but there's no opposition.

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But if there is opposition, it doesn't matter what you tell the person. There's no truth in it for them.
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Jul 6 2021 09:32pm
Quote (GameCrazy9000 @ Jul 6 2021 08:18pm)
Not me particularly.

But in truth, there are opposites but no opposition.

There is you. There is me. But there is no opposition. Then, there's truth.

But if there's opposition, one doesn't find truth in it.

So what is the Truth?


One does not find the truth itself in the opposition but one can find what is true of the opposition.

What you're discovering is that what ought be is not what is, that is the conundrum most cannot solve because they've abandoned God or the embodiment of truth. The truth is people have collectively abandoned God and the repercussion is lies and evil destroying themselves and everything/everyone one else around.

The truth is something you perceive, feel, and see, it is the self or true self. language is a last resort to make your way back to God or truth.
Perceptual understanding & art were what were lost by the lie.
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Jul 6 2021 09:33pm
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One does not find the truth itself in the opposition but one can find what is true of the opposition.

What you're discovering is that what ought be is not what is, that is the conundrum most cannot solve because they've abandoned God or the embodiment of truth. The truth is people have collectively abandoned God and the repercussion is lies and evil destroying themselves and everything/everyone one else around.

The truth is something you perceive, feel, and see, it is the self or true self. language is a last resort to make your way back to God or truth.
Perceptual understanding & art were what were lost by the lie.


Perhaps... the Truth is God?
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Perhaps... the Truth is God?


Quote (GameCrazy9000 @ Jul 6 2021 08:21pm)
If someone finds the vaccine to be true:

there are opposites: there's the person. there's the vaccine. but there's no opposition.

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But if there is opposition, it doesn't matter what you tell the person. There's no truth in it for them.


Every lie is a truth deviously but cleverly hidden.

There is god the father and there is the GodFather.
Both have their truths, only one is infinite.

This post was edited by lodd222 on Jul 6 2021 09:39pm
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The truth spectrum has two extremes: religious conspiracy theorists like lodd who are skeptical of almost everything aside from the writings in a book and the opposite side is people who are incredulous that an authority figure such as the government would lie, and as a result, they tend believe to a fault everything said figure says . The truth lies in the middle. Unfortunately, we aren't omniscient or have telepathic powers, so all we can do is make inferences based on the evidence at hand.
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The truth spectrum has two extremes: religious conspiracy theorists like lodd who are skeptical of almost everything aside from the writings in a book and the opposite side is people who are incredulous that an authority figure such as the government would lie, and as a result, they tend believe to a fault everything said figure says . The truth lies in the middle. Unfortunately, we aren't omniscient or have telepathic powers, so all we can do is make inferences based on the evidence at hand.



People who reduce all of their mental capacity to bigotry or the modern day equivalent of calling some one the N word, or what KENW and his legion are.

How ironic indeed.

This post was edited by lodd222 on Jul 6 2021 09:43pm
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Every lie is a truth deviously but cleverly hidden.

There is god the father and there is the GodFather.
Both have their truths only one is infinite.


There is truth and there is The Truth.

Perhaps I am truth? For I am just a combination of everything I hold true.

But I am not The Truth.

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In the same framework:

I am 27 but I am not the 27. While being 27 is a part of who I am now, I am not the number 27 itself.

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Jul 6 2021 09:45pm
Quote (GameCrazy9000 @ Jul 7 2021 03:53am)
What is the Truth?

Serious topic, no spam.


There is no truth, there is just perspective. We have far too many cognitive biases for any form of literal truth to exist. The best way we have is the stories we tell ourselves to make sense of the world.
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The truth spectrum has two extremes: religious conspiracy theorists like lodd who are skeptical of almost everything aside from the writings in a book and the opposite side is people who are incredulous that an authority figure such as the government would lie, and as a result, they tend believe to a fault everything said figure says . The truth lies in the middle. Unfortunately, we aren't omniscient or have telepathic powers, so all we can do is make inferences based on the evidence at hand.


The objects held to be true are not The Truth. Just to differentiate for the topic...

The Truth, that which is an objective truth, must be true for everyone and at all times.
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Quote (Prospectz @ Jul 6 2021 10:45pm)
There is no truth, there is just perspective. We have far too many cognitive biases for any form of literal truth to exist. The best way we have is the stories we tell ourselves to make sense of the world.


If there's no truth but just perspective, does the world still exist if you stop perceiving?
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