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Were they aggravatedly assaulting a box of diapers or…?


ya ummmm wat
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Quote (inkanddagger @ Jul 6 2021 12:20pm)
Were they aggravatedly assaulting a box of diapers or…?


That is a story to show a broader statistical trend. If you want a specific case, this is the better one.

AKA I was baiting you into looking stupid and doubling down on nonsense that doesn't work and isn't supported by any data.

https://www.newswars.com/blm-rioter-who-smashed-car-window-in-a-toddlers-face-avoids-jail-after-lawyer-says-it-was-an-emotional-time/

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A Black Lives Matter rioter who smashed a car window in a 1-year-old child’s face has avoided prison after his lawyer argued that it was a “very emotional time” for the culprit.


This post was edited by EndlessSky on Jul 6 2021 10:31am
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 6 2021 09:31am)
That is a story to show a broader statistical trend. If you want a specific case, this is the better one.

AKA I was baiting you into looking stupid and doubling down on nonsense that doesn't work and isn't supported by any data.

https://www.newswars.com/blm-rioter-who-smashed-car-window-in-a-toddlers-face-avoids-jail-after-lawyer-says-it-was-an-emotional-time/



Newswars.com

If I click that link are they going to try to sell me supplements or pillows?

And did he smash the babies face into a window or like why is a baby out of their car seat with their face on a window? The parent should be in prison for neglect to be honest.

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Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 6 2021 11:31am)
That is a story to show a broader statistical trend. If you want a specific case, this is the better one.

AKA I was baiting you into looking stupid and doubling down on nonsense that doesn't work and isn't supported by any data.

https://www.newswars.com/blm-rioter-who-smashed-car-window-in-a-toddlers-face-avoids-jail-after-lawyer-says-it-was-an-emotional-time/


im not sure what i'm "doubling down on". i said i supported non-violent crimes passed instead to the parole board, not to avoid justice, but to get justice faster, and alleviate tax burden.

then u post a violent crime following a vaguely similar but not at all the same process, i ask for a link, u post a different third type of case, and claim i supported something.....

in the actual case u linked i'd support reducing charges from aggravated assault down to destruction of property, because its very likely the defense will make a pretty easy case out of getting charges dropped because the defendant lacks mens rea for attacking the child.

BLM is simply getting their turn at the table to benefit from the vast history of legal precedent for mob mentality to reduce or eliminate charges. How many southern house cross burnings or bricks in windows led to injuries, burnt houses, or deaths that never drew a charge?

Edit: as to "not supported by data" thats laughably false. the #1 cause for recidivism among parolees is parole statutory violations. by a wide margin. this is because violations, like possession of a firearm or drugs, cause immediate returns to prison. whereas trying them with a crime such as felony possession requires a court hearing, public defender, etc. Its the difference between almost free 100% success and costly 90% success. its that simple.

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Prosecutorial discretion is a tool that is too often not exercised.
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Prosecutorial discretion is a tool that is too often not exercised.



This is true. They often do not use any discretion when catering to the profit motives of the prison industrial complex.
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Prosecutorial discretion is a tool that is too often not exercised.


indeed, i wrote a paper circa 2008 about how its the best tool for pot legalization. and everywhere its used, boom, shortly after its legal. SHOCKER.

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im not sure what i'm "doubling down on". i said i supported non-violent crimes passed instead to the parole board, not to avoid justice, but to get justice faster, and alleviate tax burden.

then u post a violent crime following a vaguely similar but not at all the same process, i ask for a link, u post a different third type of case, and claim i supported something.....

in the actual case u linked i'd support reducing charges from aggravated assault down to destruction of property, because its very likely the defense will make a pretty easy case out of getting charges dropped because the defendant lacks mens rea for attacking the child.

BLM is simply getting their turn at the table to benefit from the vast history of legal precedent for mob mentality to reduce or eliminate charges. How many southern house cross burnings or bricks in windows led to injuries, burnt houses, or deaths that never drew a charge?

Edit: as to "not supported by data" thats laughably false. the #1 cause for recidivism among parolees is parole statutory violations. by a wide margin. this is because violations, like possession of a firearm or drugs, cause immediate returns to prison. whereas trying them with a crime such as felony possession requires a court hearing, public defender, etc. Its the difference between almost free 100% success and costly 90% success. its that simple.


There is a video online of him smashing a car window in with what looks like a hammer.

How many of the 500 people on camera committed violent felonies but will walk free?

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This is true. They often do not use any discretion when catering to the profit motives of the prison industrial complex.


Profits to make what? License plates and small rocks?

You are legitimately schizophrenic.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Jul 6 2021 10:52am
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There is a video online of him smashing a car window in with what looks like a hammer.

How many of the 500 people on camera committed violent felonies but will walk free?



Profits to make what? License plates and small rocks?

You are legitimately schizophrenic.


safelite repair, safelite replace.

smashing a car window is like what? 500$? maybe?

felony destruction to property is generally 2000$+.

u should re-read the legal code, and stop using "violent" as a crutch.
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safelite repair, safelite replace.

smashing a car window is like what? 500$? maybe?

felony destruction to property is generally 2000$+.

u should re-read the legal code, and stop using "violent" as a crutch.


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