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Jun 11 2021 08:29am
Quote (Santara @ Jun 11 2021 10:23am)
I am opposed to this, but I'm not going to get bent out of whack considering the extensive precedent set by multiple previous administrations.


trump is and has always been a national security level threat. any surveiillance on him and his inner circle was justified as can be clearly demonstrated by the prosecutions and charges brought against his campaign manager and former director of national security.

to be politically spying on political enemies who are investigating you is a whole level of lawlessness.

trump and his admin has undoubtedly been the most corrupt admin the country has ever seen and there are still things coming to light.

get your head out of your ass.
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Jun 11 2021 08:30am
Quote (SunnyvaleTrailerPark @ Jun 11 2021 10:29am)
What's wrong with this?

You well aware you're being spied by Govs agencies/Tech Giants right?


there you go again, back to the trump shit shovelling right from his ass to your mouth.

nice 10%.
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Jun 11 2021 08:31am
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they were just checking to see if those committee members did indeed fulfill the requirement of being intelligent. understandable.


unintelligent people determining the intelligence of others.

couldn't fit the american stereotype any better than that.
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Jun 11 2021 08:32am
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there you go again, back to the trump shit shovelling right from his ass to your mouth.

nice 10%.


It's only a % on a virtual forum.

With the amount of socks5/vpn(25k+ nodes) you can't silence me so just learn to cohabit with me for as long as i feel being here.

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Jun 11 2021 08:33am
Quote (SunnyvaleTrailerPark @ Jun 11 2021 10:32am)
It's only a % on a virtual forum.

With the amount of socks5/vpn(25k+ nodes) you can't silence me so just learn to cohabit with me for as long as i feel being here.

In life, i do what i please, when i please, where i please.


no, you are a sheep, and an addict to jsp. you think that you arent, but it just makes you an even bigger one.
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Jun 11 2021 08:36am
Quote (Budgeting @ Jun 11 2021 09:29am)
trump is and has always been a national security level threat. any surveiillance on him and his inner circle was justified as can be clearly demonstrated by the prosecutions and charges brought against his campaign manager and former director of national security.

to be politically spying on political enemies who are investigating you is a whole level of lawlessness.

trump and his admin has undoubtedly been the most corrupt admin the country has ever seen and there are still things coming to light.

get your head out of your ass.


REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Jun 11 2021 08:38am
Quote (Budgeting @ Jun 11 2021 09:31am)
unintelligent people determining the intelligence of others.

couldn't fit the american stereotype any better than that.


frankly while i dont care about the original leaks because i find the concept of classified information to be abused grossly by govt i dont really see much of the controversy here.

Classified information was leaked. Subpoenas were used to try and find out who leaked it that had access to it, if it was any of them. This is the legal process for this type of investigation. and the minor being subpoenaed is a non issue, minors are protected from public trials, and in most cases from being tried as adults, but they're not protected from being investigated behind closed doors. If the Trump admin leaked the minors name even, but not their phone data, that would be a violation. But if a congress member didnt leak it but a member of their household on the same home network was hacked this could be how it got out, and is relevant to the investigation.

The only potential GOTCHA i see here is if Trump only subpoenaed the democrats, and didnt subpoena his own party members on the same committee, which i could see him doing. but Trump was dumb and thought he had WAY more party loyalty than he actually had early into his presidency. Doesnt excuse it, just an aside.
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Jun 11 2021 08:46am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 11 2021 10:38am)
frankly while i dont care about the original leaks because i find the concept of classified information to be abused grossly by govt i dont really see much of the controversy here.

Classified information was leaked. Subpoenas were used to try and find out who leaked it that had access to it, if it was any of them. This is the legal process for this type of investigation. and the minor being subpoenaed is a non issue, minors are protected from public trials, and in most cases from being tried as adults, but they're not protected from being investigated behind closed doors. If the Trump admin leaked the minors name even, but not their phone data, that would be a violation. But if a congress member didnt leak it but a member of their household on the same home network was hacked this could be how it got out, and is relevant to the investigation.

The only potential GOTCHA i see here is if Trump only subpoenaed the democrats, and didnt subpoena his own party members on the same committee, which i could see him doing. but Trump was dumb and thought he had WAY more party loyalty than he actually had early into his presidency. Doesnt excuse it, just an aside.


its quite clear he targetted democrats only on the committee as no republicans have come forward and announced they were approached by apple to let them know.


so much for right wingers here being against big gov.
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Jun 11 2021 08:47am
Quote (Santara @ Jun 11 2021 10:36am)
REEEEEEEEEEEEE


wow are you tistuff?

such an easy mind to break down.

how many trump and maga flags do you have on your yard?
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Jun 11 2021 08:56am
Quote (Budgeting @ Jun 11 2021 09:46am)
its quite clear he targetted democrats only on the committee as no republicans have come forward and announced they were approached by apple to let them know.


so much for right wingers here being against big gov.


https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/about/committee-members-115th-congress-2017-2018

which member of that committee would u expect to run to the press saying "Trump subpoenad me"

also, if Apple notified the DNC members, why did it take 5 years to come out? genuinely curious, as i dont know apple did, could, or had to notify users their data was subpoenaed.

lastly, am i a "right winger"?
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