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Jun 10 2021 03:29pm
how about that jewish AP reporter that was fired after right wingers (individuals and media outlets) lobbied for her dismissal?

a principled "free speech" advocate would have been outraged, but all the grifters, all the "centrists" / "libertarians" / "moderate conservatives", that usually cite their alleged love for free speech when it comes to defending actually racist and bigoted speech, were completely silent on the issue (or even belonged to the crowd demanding her firing).

the simple reality is right wingers LOVE to "cancel" / boycott / silence everyone that disagrees with them, and the whole "left wing cancel culture" narrative is nothing but projection.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/may/21/associated-press-emily-wilder-fired-pro-palestinian-views
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Jun 10 2021 03:34pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 10 2021 04:20pm)
Cancel culture is a cancer for society and the well-being of democracy, no matter where it's coming from. I do not support or condone the silencing of free speech by the political right. This pamphlet is nasty, but the student has every right to publish it and the federalist society was wrong to try to get it cancelled/censored.


For many years, conservatives used to be the main culprits of censorship and cancel culture. However, at some point between 2008 and 2018, things turned around, and nowadays, it's liberals/leftists who are responsible for the bulk of censorship and attacks on free speech. One counterexample, and a weak one at that, does not disprove this trend.


Good thing theres more than one counterexample.

Did you know the government will fire contractors if their employees boycott Israel? There's some pretty terrible examples out there if you are willing to look.
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Jun 10 2021 03:51pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jun 10 2021 04:34pm)
Good thing theres more than one counterexample.

Did you know the government will fire contractors if their employees boycott Israel? There's some pretty terrible examples out there if you are willing to look.


good the govt shouldnt give money to Hitlers
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Jun 10 2021 03:54pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 10 2021 05:20pm)
Cancel culture is a cancer for society and the well-being of democracy, no matter where it's coming from. I do not support or condone the silencing of free speech by the political right. This pamphlet is nasty, but the student has every right to publish it and the federalist society was wrong to try to get it cancelled/censored.


For many years, conservatives used to be the main culprits of censorship and cancel culture. However, at some point between 2008 and 2018, things turned around, and nowadays, it's liberals/leftists who are responsible for the bulk of censorship and attacks on free speech. One counterexample, and a weak one at that, does not disprove this trend.


hate speech and harrassment are not protected under the first amendment.

words have consequences.
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Jun 10 2021 03:57pm
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hate speech and harrassment are not protected under the first amendment.

words have consequences.


correction, they are protected under the first amendment, but later case law prohibited them :P
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Jun 10 2021 03:59pm
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correction, they are protected under the first amendment, but later case law prohibited them :P


ok i stand corrected.

so in that case,


words have consequences.

also, i find it funny how most right wingers are just mad trump got kicked off twitter.

so much for private business being able to implement their own policy!!!!
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Jun 10 2021 04:00pm
Quote (Budgeting @ Jun 10 2021 04:59pm)
ok i stand corrected.

so in that case,


words have consequences.

also, i find it funny how most right wingers are just mad trump got kicked off twitter.

so much for private business being able to implement their own policy!!!!


very petty nit pick by me, it is a line my law prof said and its stuck with me. hate speech was legal until it wasnt.
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Jun 10 2021 04:05pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 10 2021 12:09pm)
https://i.redd.it/6oj7tc0jlg471.jpg

Native Americans, literally the cancelled culture.

I assume im doing it right.


Not really. Where is the proof that it is the conservatives that did this? That's the point of this thread: conservatives cancelling people.

If I know anything about American history, I'd bet my life that it was the Democrats that cancelled the Indians. I know one thing for a fact: it was the Democrats that wanted to keep slavery legal.
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Jun 10 2021 04:10pm
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Not really. Where is the proof that it is the conservatives that did this? That's the point of this thread: conservatives cancelling people.

If I know anything about American history, I'd bet my life that it was the Democrats that cancelled the Indians. I know one thing for a fact: it was the Democrats that wanted to keep slavery legal.


the democrats that wanted to keep slavery legal were conservatives. the democrats of today are liberals. the republicans (behind lincoln) that wanted to end slavery were liberals.

simply defined conservative means "wants to preserve the way it is", as in keep slavery legal as it had been since Europeans first colonized America.

Andrew Jackson, perhaps the greatest presidential villain to the remaining Native Americans was a Democratic-Republican. He signed into law the Indian Removal act which caused the Trail of Tears.

in any case i was just being cheeky playing on words. but im not sure u do know anything about American history.

Edit: and more accurately 95%+ of indians were killed by disease.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jun 10 2021 04:15pm
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Jun 10 2021 04:18pm
Quote (fender @ 10 Jun 2021 23:29)
how about that jewish AP reporter that was fired after right wingers (individuals and media outlets) lobbied for her dismissal?

a principled "free speech" advocate would have been outraged, but all the grifters, all the "centrists" / "libertarians" / "moderate conservatives", that usually cite their alleged love for free speech when it comes to defending actually racist and bigoted speech, were completely silent on the issue (or even belonged to the crowd demanding her firing).

the simple reality is right wingers LOVE to "cancel" / boycott / silence everyone that disagrees with them, and the whole "left wing cancel culture" narrative is nothing but projection.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/may/21/associated-press-emily-wilder-fired-pro-palestinian-views


Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 10 Jun 2021 23:34)
Good thing theres more than one counterexample.

Did you know the government will fire contractors if their employees boycott Israel? There's some pretty terrible examples out there if you are willing to look.


The Isreal lobby is a beast of its own. Even if views on the Middle East conflict have increasingly aligned along partisan lines in recent years, I would not lump censorship efforts by this particular lobby together with the conservative movement at-large.



Quote (Budgeting @ 10 Jun 2021 23:59)
also, i find it funny how most right wingers are just mad trump got kicked off twitter.

so much for private business being able to implement their own policy!!!!

Things get complicated when a private business is a monopolist and controls one of the vital channels of modern communication. Note that I'm not a free market fundamentalist, so unlike some other conservatives, I'm not categorically opposed to government regulations on big business out of ideological reasons.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jun 10 2021 04:20pm
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