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May 19 2021 11:33am
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it isn't innovative, but the timeline was shifted up considerably by BLM and leftists calling for it nationwide. and that's good, for them, and for everyone else. its an insurance policy for all of society.

Ferguson effect is "bad". not sure how, in the same time police unions have been crying that this indecision causes officers to get shot by criminals the stats haven't proven that out. Police shot by criminals was around 50 before ferguson, nationwide mind you, each year. and still is. the greatest lie of police unions is the fear of cops dying to violent criminals by illegal gun fire. gangs know better than to shoot at cops, they shoot at rival gangs. shoot another gangs bag boy and you get a 1 day investigation before the cops go back to normal patrols. kill a cop and you shut down the streets for weeks. its just bad business. i repeat, 50 cops or so nationwide are killed by criminals via gunfire per year, in a nation of 400 million or so people.

as to the last, im sure it will. and im sure it was abused before by police unions to get dirty cops off. pendulums dont swing from one side to center, but we'll eventually get there. progress isn't free.

which cultural issues specifically are you referencing? we likely agree.



Cultural issues I can point to are lack of authority respect, lack of family unit, lack of a good moral framework. Look, I am literally around hundreds of young black youth (not at the mall) all the time. I see this shit, I get raged when people dismiss it as something else. I deeply care about these people and I am fighting an immense uphill battle against cultural figures, some now I can’t even maneuver against, because there’s so many buried in the internet on cell phones. Example is that furicon guy.
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May 19 2021 11:36am
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Cultural issues I can point to are lack of authority respect, lack of family unit, lack of a good moral framework. Look, I am literally around hundreds of young black youth (not at the mall) all the time. I see this shit, I get raged when people dismiss it as something else. I deeply care about these people and I am fighting an immense uphill battle against cultural figures, some now I can’t even maneuver against, because there’s so many buried in the internet on cell phones. Example is that furicon guy.


i laughed at the bolded so hard.

i agree with the general cultural issues u bring up. ive been in favor and even worked with black mentorship programs for a long time and they need more support rather than tossing blank checks at schools, police, public defenders, etc. tear up problems by the roots.

when i read stories about community driven mentorship classes where black men graduate at 90%+ compared to 50% in gen pop i want more and more of it. it is a shame those dont get more support.
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May 19 2021 11:37am
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Cultural issues I can point to are lack of authority respect, lack of family unit, lack of a good moral framework. Look, I am literally around hundreds of young black youth (not at the mall) all the time. I see this shit, I get raged when people dismiss it as something else. I deeply care about these people and I am fighting an immense uphill battle against cultural figures, some now I can’t even maneuver against, because there’s so many buried in the internet on cell phones. Example is that furicon guy.


Those are symptoms of a greater problem. Why is there a lack of a family unit and moral framework? Look no further than the excessive incarceration of blacks over GENERATIONS. Kind of hard for family units to coalesce when daddy gets sent to prison for non-violent drug charges.
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May 19 2021 11:41am
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Those are symptoms of a greater problem. Why is there a lack of a family unit and moral framework? Look no further than the excessive incarceration of blacks over GENERATIONS. Kind of hard for family units to coalesce when daddy gets sent to prison for non-violent drug charges.



You are gaslighting me. Let the rage commence. I know these stories. Selling hardcore drugs, committing crimes sends you to prison. Kids out of wedlock. Give me a break.

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i laughed at the bolded so hard.

i agree with the general cultural issues u bring up. ive been in favor and even worked with black mentorship programs for a long time and they need more support rather than tossing blank checks at schools, police, public defenders, etc. tear up problems by the roots.

when i read stories about community driven mentorship classes where black men graduate at 90%+ compared to 50% in gen pop i want more and more of it. it is a shame those dont get more support.



Well the other problem with institutional help with these is now you have affirmative action giving them uplifts not earned through merit. It’s only causing the problem to enlarge
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May 19 2021 11:52am
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You are gaslighting me. Let the rage commence. I know these stories. Selling hardcore drugs, committing crimes sends you to prison. Kids out of wedlock. Give me a break.




Well the other problem with institutional help with these is now you have affirmative action giving them uplifts not earned through merit. It’s only causing the problem to enlarge


Gaslighting? LOL. You've shown a history of not being able to see the forest for the trees, so don't be surprised when someone calls you out for conflating symptoms for root causes.
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May 19 2021 11:54am
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Gaslighting? LOL. You've shown a history of not being able to see the forest for the trees, so don't be surprised when someone calls you out for conflating symptoms for root causes.



You’re full of shit
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May 19 2021 11:55am
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You are gaslighting me. Let the rage commence. I know these stories. Selling hardcore drugs, committing crimes sends you to prison. Kids out of wedlock. Give me a break.


I don't think you know what gaslighting means.

Regardless, there are fundamental issues that caused the underlying cultural problems.

When your father was sent to jail because police planted drugs on him, it's hard to see police as anything but a destructive force. When your school district funding is sent overwhelmingly to the white schools to the point that your school has mold growing on the walls it's hard to value education. When banks refuse to give you a home loan because you live in the minority part of town it's hard to value financial systems.

We can talk about cultural problems, but fundamentally you will not solve cultural problems unless you solve the more fundamental problem. That being that the system actively abused and discouraged advancement for most of American history, and arguably to this day.



Have you ever heard of the Tulsa Massacre? There was a part of town in Tulsa that was wealthier than the white parts of town. A black man was accused of assaulting a white woman and it lead to a mob of people arriving to lynch him. The residents refused to turn him over and as a result the white people, lead by the police and with support from the military, firebombing the black neighborhoods. That's what has caused our current problems with race. For the first few hundred years of this country we literally burned down their homes and communities if they dared to get wealthy enough to challenge the status quo. That kind of treatment has only been stopped on paper since the civil rights act, and has continued in other forms since then.
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May 19 2021 11:56am
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i laughed at the bolded so hard.

i agree with the general cultural issues u bring up. ive been in favor and even worked with black mentorship programs for a long time and they need more support rather than tossing blank checks at schools, police, public defenders, etc. tear up problems by the roots.

when i read stories about community driven mentorship classes where black men graduate at 90%+ compared to 50% in gen pop i want more and more of it. it is a shame those dont get more support.


Black can't live without us. Many black countries proved it. They still in the stone ages compared to us. It's crazy.

American/Canadian black people are much more advanced. Main problem is that a fair share of black fathers bounce when a kid is born because that's too much trouble/responsibilities and it might kill their mumble rap career or rocks slanger/inmate career. Then you have the one who always cry IM A VICTIM when they did it to themselves by following their "Crips vs Bloods" mentality which LOT does which is fucking surprising in 2021.

I could go on and on.

Don't get me wrong, there's good black people around but there's a fucking huge % that ruin it all for em.

I get called racist for pointing out the real problems. I call them stupid for not seeing the actual problem for what it is. They rather call us racist when cops beat/kill/arrest a black crackhead for going out of his lane.

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May 19 2021 11:58am
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Black can't live without us. Many black countries proved it. They still in the stone ages compared to us. It's crazy.

American/Canadian black people are much more advanced. Main problem is that a fair share of black fathers bounce when a kid is born because that's too much trouble/responsibilities and it might kill their mumble rap career or rocks slanger/inmate career. Then you have the one who always cry IM A VICTIM when they did it to themselves by following their "Crips vs Bloods" mentality which LOT does which is fucking surprising in 2021.

I could go on and on.

Don't get me wrong, there's good black people around but there's a fucking huge % that ruin it all for em.

I get called racist for pointing out the real problems. I call them stupid for not seeing the actual problem for what it is. They rather call us racist when cops beat/kill/arrest a black crackhead for going out of his lane.


u live in a shack in the boonies bro.
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May 19 2021 12:00pm
Quote (Duckling @ May 19 2021 12:54pm)
You’re full of shit


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