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#11
May 11 2021 10:14pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ May 11 2021 08:26pm)
The investment should be happening on the private side. Last I checked the US government isn't receiving dividends from Apple or Microsoft. They are basically socializing the costs but privatizing the profits here. I mean i own Apple & Microsoft so maybe people like me are fine, but i realize that's not most Americans.

I understand subsidizing industries that are struggling or we need to keep on life support i.e. airlines or certain farmers but to subsidize companies that are raking record profits, making an obscene amount of money really to me is completely nonsensical.


what do you think has been happening over the last few decades?
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May 11 2021 10:21pm
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what do you think has been happening over the last few decades?


it's amazing, right? how those trump drones only wake up to that now, lol...

better late than never i'd say - although i'm obviously not expecting them to be principled or consistent on this issue (or any other one for that matter) once a republican takes office again - then they'll act like that's just "capitalism" at work and the best thing ever for "the economy", lol.
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May 11 2021 10:53pm
Quote (fender @ May 12 2021 12:21am)
it's amazing, right? how those trump drones only wake up to that now, lol...

better late than never i'd say - although i'm obviously not expecting them to be principled or consistent on this issue (or any other one for that matter) once a republican takes office again - then they'll act like that's just "capitalism" at work and the best thing ever for "the economy", lol.


The president is Joe Biden
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May 11 2021 11:08pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ 12 May 2021 06:53)
The president is Joe Biden


unlike many of your fellow trump cultists, i am well aware of that. that's why you lot suddenly pretend to care about the favours that politicians do for their corporate owners. the criticism is well deserved, i unironically agree with it. all i'm saying is that you people are probably doing it for the wrong reason (partisan hackery), and not because you genuinely care about the issue (that's why you were silent when republicans did it).
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May 11 2021 11:11pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ May 12 2021 02:53pm)
The president is Joe Biden


When it wasn't i never saw you comment on this kind of subsidy a single time even though its rife.
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#16
May 11 2021 11:13pm
To me, this is a national security issue. We should have SOME manufacturing here that isn't dependent on countries so close to China.
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May 11 2021 11:44pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ May 12 2021 01:11am)
When it wasn't i never saw you comment on this kind of subsidy a single time even though its rife.



Like what?
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May 11 2021 11:57pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ 12 May 2021 07:44)
Like what?


like severely deregulating the already heavily subsidised fossil fuel industry. saving them billions so they can more freely destroy our planet, privatising the profits, and socialising the losses.

like ballooning farming subsidies because a certain moron didn't understand what trade deficits are and what they mean.
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May 12 2021 12:30am
Quote (EndlessSky @ May 12 2021 03:44pm)
Like what?


Like when trump appointed a fossil fuel ceo as head of the epa and they cut the shit out of regulations?
I remember you actually supporting this.
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#20
May 12 2021 01:17am
Quote (ofthevoid @ May 11 2021 04:32pm)
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tech-giants-join-call-funding-091223444.html

Just in case you were wondering.

Apple ltm profits: 76 billion
Microsoft: 56 billion
Amazon: 27 billion
Google: 51 billion
Intel: 18 billion

Biden is asking congress to give 50b dollars in subsidies to these companies. Now it's starting to make sense why big tech donated to his campaign, I just didn't think it would be this brazen.


its all done in your face now and if you say anything about it, well.................your one of those wakado conspiracy theorists.
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