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Apr 7 2021 06:56am
Quote (fender @ Apr 7 2021 08:45am)
how many voters living in a district with waiting lines (predominantly low income, minority, urban), that actually are dedicated enough to wait in a line for hours to vote, do you think have been "bribed" to change their vote for a glass of water, in the history of american elections? could you make a rough estimate? a single one? dozens? hundreds? even more?

do you genuinely not see how that is NOT legislation addressing a real and concerning issue, but a blatant attempt to just further inconvenience and dissuade voters, like closing polling stations to create those lines in the first place, like limiting voting times and ballot boxes? it's such an obvious and egregious voter disenfranchisement operation that you'd have to be positively mentally challenged not to realise what's going on there.

it will never cease to amaze me how some people will happily insult their own intelligence like that trying to 'justify' republican voter suppression, lol...


There was a time when people died for democracy. People are still sacrificing their lives, getting attacked, and so on today in places like Myanmar because they want fairness.

We've become extremely lazy about our freedoms and regularly take them for granted.

A person can't be bothered to bring a bottle of water that costs pennies? Instead, Team (insert whatever party) walks around with their political pins handing out these gifts which in a very obvious way sways the person's perception.

A person can't be bothered to get a picture ID when literally most countries in the world require some sort of picture ID? Germany requires proof of identity. Some of the poorest countries in Africa and South America require a picture ID.

Why is the argument here that these laws are racist while in those countries it's totally acceptable when they are magnitudes poorer than us.

It's almost as if this is a manufactured problem and the whole point of it is to sway votes to a political party and you simps peddle it because it's your choice pony.

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Apr 7 2021 06:57am
Quote (Crunkt @ Apr 7 2021 04:33am)
To People in line.

As if you are a literal criminal for giving someone water while they wait in line to vote.

If they are waiting in line for candy, or in line for the pedophile convention then its cool give them water ur not a criminal and dont deserve a criminal record.

A literal jail time permanent criminal record if that person is in line to vote though

wow thats fucked up. Like truly and awfully fucked up. There are people that vote republican? Thats really fucked up,

how can you justify this?


Electioneering is already illegal in many states for obvious reasons.

Georgia put through some common sense election reforms that more advanced blue states have had for years.
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Apr 7 2021 06:59am
stay out of politics!!

I did not mean the financial donors.
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Apr 7 2021 07:17am
ah yes, when I go out of my way to vote, the number one thing that changes my mind on who I'm going to vote for is being given a water bottle with a candidate's face on it
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Apr 7 2021 07:20am
not only do pale pasty privileged lefties think certain voters are too stupid or too poor to get voter ID, now they also think this same group is too stupid to provide sustenance for themselves
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not only do pale pasty privileged lefties think certain voters are too stupid or too poor to get voter ID, now they also think this same group is too stupid to provide sustenance for themselves


heh... I wonder who these certain voters could be...

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There was a time when people died for democracy. People are still sacrificing their lives, getting attacked, and so on today in places like Myanmar because they want fairness.

We've become extremely lazy about our freedoms and regularly take them for granted.

A person can't be bothered to bring a bottle of water that costs pennies? Instead, Team (insert whatever party) walks around with their political pins handing out these gifts which in a very obvious way sways the person's perception.

A person can't be bothered to get a picture ID when literally most countries in the world require some sort of picture ID? Germany requires proof of identity. Some of the poorest countries in Africa and South America require a picture ID.

Why is the argument here that these laws are racist while in those countries it's totally acceptable when they are magnitudes poorer than us.

It's almost as if this is a manufactured problem and the whole point of it is to sway votes to a political party and you simps peddle it because it's your choice pony.


i love how you completely dodge my question and my main point that people having to wait in line to vote being "bribed" by snacks or a bottle of water is NOT an actual problem that exists, but an obvious attempt to inconvenience and dissuade voters, only to pivot into some completely irrelevant tangent about how "people used to die for democracy", as if that somehow makes the deliberate strategies by republicans to suppress votes less shitty and fundamentally unamerican.

same as that lazy ID talking point. the simple fact is that it disproportionally disenfranchises poor and minority communities. 11% of american voters don't have a photo ID - 8% of white and 25% of black voters don't - and republicans not only know that, they even admitted to their real goals (voter suppression, predominantly of minorities) on the record.

IF they were in favour of issuing free photo ID for every citizen BEFORE requiring it to vote, it'd be a different story for me, but that'd defeat the actual purpose of voter ID laws, so naturally most republicans oppose that. and again, cases of actual voter fraud are incredibly rare, so the whole effort of crafting a shitton of legislation to address a non-issue can easily be identified as what it really is by every rational thinking human being: blatant voter suppression.
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Apr 7 2021 07:43am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 7 2021 08:24am)
>why can't political actors bribe voters with small gifts reeeeee


Feigned ignorance is fun weeee

You are all such liars.

I do not want to hear about the infringements of rights from people who support making it illegal for one citizen to give water to another.

You lose a election and you go full authoritarian mode. Pathetic.

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i love how you completely dodge my question and my main point that people having to wait in line to vote being "bribed" by snacks or a bottle of water is NOT an actual problem that exists, but an obvious attempt to inconvenience and dissuade voters, only to pivot into some completely irrelevant tangent about how "people used to die for democracy", as if that somehow makes the deliberate strategies by republicans to suppress votes less shitty and fundamentally unamerican.

same as that lazy ID talking point. the simple fact is that it disproportionally disenfranchises poor and minority communities. 11% of american voters don't have a photo ID - 8% of white and 25% of black voters don't - and republicans not only know that, they even admitted to their real goals (voter suppression, predominantly of minorities) on the record.

IF they were in favour of issuing free photo ID for every citizen BEFORE requiring it to vote, it'd be a different story for me, but that'd defeat the actual purpose of voter ID laws, so naturally most republicans oppose that. and again, cases of actual voter fraud are incredibly rare, so the whole effort of crafting a shitton of legislation to address a non-issue can easily be identified as what it really is by every rational thinking human being: blatant voter suppression.


they have no actual basis for this "voter fraud needs corrected" other than orange man says mail in voting and illegal "rapists" are voting out your favorite whitey.
There is NO evidence of widespread voter fraud. this is all R crying because the lost an election where MORE people participated than ever before.
Its the ultimate cancel culture.. Remove or discourage minorities from voting.
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Apr 7 2021 07:48am
Quote (excellence @ Apr 7 2021 09:20am)
not only do pale pasty privileged lefties think certain voters are too stupid or too poor to get voter ID, now they also think this same group is too stupid to provide sustenance for themselves


Sore losers change the rules after losing so less people get to play. Typical authoritarian reich wing trump worshippers.

"Stupid lefties don't think you should have to spend money to access the bill of rights ". Ok cucklord. Cup the heel and gag yourself.

This post was edited by Skinned on Apr 7 2021 07:49am
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