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Mar 27 2021 10:54pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 27 2021 09:28pm)
I'm giving Biden maybe 6 months to get the border situation cleaned up, after that kids in cages are on his administration.

Obama had "kids in cages" to hold them when they arrived without their parents or a guardian. Trump separated families that arrived together, and that's way worse.

However, under Biden his policy of letting kids in but not necessarily their parents has paradoxically lead to a worse outcome because it incentivizes parents to let their kids through before they go through. Good intentions, bad outcome.

Got a lot of cleaning up to do still and I don't think he's going to do it very well.


The kids aren't coming with their parents though....coyotes are bringing them across the border. The real solution is to rapidly expand the immigration courts, work with Mexico to secure THEIR borders, etc.

This shit isn't going to be solved in 6 months. We've been trying for over half a century now.
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Mar 27 2021 10:57pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 28 Mar 2021 05:28)
I'm giving Biden maybe 6 months to get the border situation cleaned up, after that kids in cages are on his administration.

Obama had "kids in cages" to hold them when they arrived without their parents or a guardian. Trump separated families that arrived together, and that's way worse.

However, under Biden his policy of letting kids in but not necessarily their parents has paradoxically lead to a worse outcome because it incentivizes parents to let their kids through before they go through. Good intentions, bad outcome.

Got a lot of cleaning up to do still and I don't think he's going to do it very well.


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If you give group X better chances of making it in, or even a free pass, then group X will be sent to the border preferentially.
If the policy was that gay persons who are missing a leg and an eye are not turned away at the border, then we'd be seeing a surge of faggots dressed up as pirates...

In this particular case, the policy is extra moronic. If separating children from their parents is inhumane and ethically/morally unacceptable, and you are unwilling to turn away the children in their own right, then the only logical conclusion is that you have to eventually let in all families. The uncomfortable truth is that merely deciding not to turn children away already gets you 85% of the way to an open borders policy. It's almost as if Democrats put themselves in a bind by supercharging the issue during the Trump years.
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Mar 27 2021 11:35pm
Mexico was willing to be an ally and work with us on the border situation during President Trump's administration, despite all the tensions. Both leadership sets wanted to mitigate illegal migration to their countries and acted accordingly. Mexico was guarding its southern border quite vigorously during this time period https://www.wola.org/analysis/mexico-southern-border-report/

Mexico no longer has any desire or incentive to continue this process now. Just let everyone through and let the USA deal with it. now why did this all of a sudden surge start like last month anyway?
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Mar 28 2021 12:18am
Quote (excellence @ Mar 27 2021 10:35pm)
Mexico was willing to be an ally and work with us on the border situation during President Trump's administration, despite all the tensions. Both leadership sets wanted to mitigate illegal migration to their countries and acted accordingly. Mexico was guarding its southern border quite vigorously during this time period https://www.wola.org/analysis/mexico-southern-border-report/

Mexico no longer has any desire or incentive to continue this process now. Just let everyone through and let the USA deal with it. now why did this all of a sudden surge start like last month anyway?


Don't worry, Kamala is in charge of Latin American foreign policy now. Behind closed doors, she can be very convincing if you know what I mean.
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Mar 28 2021 12:30am
Quote (thundercock @ 28 Mar 2021 02:18)
Don't worry, Kamala is in charge of Latin American foreign policy now. Behind closed doors, she can be very convincing if you know what I mean.

lol that back and forth reallie did bring a chuckle:

Biden: my VP of the harris/biden administration is in charge of the border crisis no one in the media is reporting on
Harris: no i am not doing the border. i am in charge of all Latin American foreign policy

https://mobile.twitter.com/charliespiering/status/1375537759805399044

Full quote from Harris spokesperson Symone Sanders:

"I will just reiterate that the @VP is not doing the border. The president asked the vice president to take on the diplomatic efforts with Mexico and countries of the North Triangle to address the root causes of migration."
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Mar 28 2021 12:38am
Quote (thundercock @ Mar 27 2021 11:54pm)
The kids aren't coming with their parents though....coyotes are bringing them across the border. The real solution is to rapidly expand the immigration courts, work with Mexico to secure THEIR borders, etc.

This shit isn't going to be solved in 6 months. We've been trying for over half a century now.


I don't mean to solve the entirety of the border, but to get rid of the obvious human rights abuses.
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Mar 28 2021 12:42am
How about the wall, is it still being continued
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Mar 28 2021 12:48am
Quote (bill4039564 @ 28 Mar 2021 02:42)
How about the wall, is it still being continued

the current administration canceled it. something about walls dont work ever

ignore the military fortified wall around the White House in our military occupied capital

This post was edited by excellence on Mar 28 2021 12:48am
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Mar 28 2021 01:22am
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the current administration canceled it. something about walls dont work ever

ignore the military fortified wall around the White House in our military occupied capital


What about the previously installed walls. Dayummm
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Mar 28 2021 03:20am
i remember the first time i realized politicians were politicking
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