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Jan 21 2021 02:32pm
Quote (SunnyvaleTrailerPark @ Jan 21 2021 03:29pm)
you admitted that democrats are stalling for the last 12 years and nothing changed. Why you claim republicans are the problem instead of saying both party are the problem? Hard isn't it? To agree with a different group and give them praise.


He literally stated a problem that is solely held by Republicans you mouth breather.
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Quote (SunnyvaleTrailerPark @ Jan 21 2021 02:29pm)
you admitted that democrats are stalling for the last 12 years and nothing changed. Why you claim republicans are the problem instead of saying both party are the problem? Hard isn't it? To agree with a different group and give them praise.


Democrats definitely have their own issues. They are basically the same party as the Republicans except in how they talk about it. They tend to say "We want X" and then actively fight X, and just give lip service to the left on X. Healthcare is a good one where they had a supermajority and could have gotten single payer passed in 2009 but folded and passed the garbage that is Obamacare. I mean, to their credit it's better than what we had before but it's still not very good at all.
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Quote (excellence @ Jan 21 2021 01:09pm)
“I think most Americans can agree that we need to be vaccinated against COVID ASAP. I think most Americans can agree that we need some sort of economic relief. I think most Americans can agree that we need to tone down the rhetoric.”

agree with these. they’d be a solid start. however:

good luck forcing vaccinations,
good luck with economic relief solely directed towards regular working Americans as that will never clear our beloved legislative body
and even if everyday Americans tone it down, the media fans the volatile rhetoric and there is no way to hold them accountable

we wont be unified. too many people hate others for voting and having views that are “not the way they’re supposed to”. at an optimal level peope will just keep to themselves and not bother othters. last time we were unified was in 2001 right after 9/11. best we hope for is two weeks of everyone cheering for Team USA during the Olympics


I can agree with the bolded. I'd wage a sizable chunk of people wouldn't know what position their candidate actually takes on various policies, you're either red or blue, and you have to have a malice towards whatever you are not. Furthermore, I think social media only exacerbates the issue. Just like me giving my shitty opinion on here everyone else can too now.
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Quote (Mangix @ Jan 21 2021 03:32pm)
He literally stated a problem that is solely held by Republicans you mouth breather.


The sooner you understand that all party are shit and always deliver barely nothing at all versus what was promised, the sooner you understand that the people are the one being fucked on a daily basis. Not the rich people, not the corporates and not the shareholders. YOU and the other people at the bottom of the food chain . Do you think i care bout republicans? Democrats? It's etiquettes made to divide people even more on top of religion, skin color and the rest.

At the end of the day, you guys pay tax like people in 3rd world country have to pay gangs for their protection. Same shit, different name.

You guys still have a shit healthcare system after you guys been claiming to be the BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD when even 3rd world countries have a better healthcare system which should be priority #1 as your health is what help you go through life.

The problem is that lot of people here and just plain retarded with the wrong objectives in life (Getting perfect shako over a good job)
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 21 2021 12:34pm)
Democrats definitely have their own issues. They are basically the same party as the Republicans except in how they talk about it. They tend to say "We want X" and then actively fight X, and just give lip service to the left on X. Healthcare is a good one where they had a supermajority and could have gotten single payer passed in 2009 but folded and passed the garbage that is Obamacare. I mean, to their credit it's better than what we had before but it's still not very good at all.


There's absolutely no way that could happen unless you're talking about having all the cards. Yes, the Democrats had all the power but they were not unified in their solution.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 21 2021 03:34pm)
Democrats definitely have their own issues. They are basically the same party as the Republicans except in how they talk about it. They tend to say "We want X" and then actively fight X, and just give lip service to the left on X. Healthcare is a good one where they had a supermajority and could have gotten single payer passed in 2009 but folded and passed the garbage that is Obamacare. I mean, to their credit it's better than what we had before but it's still not very good at all.


Fucking thanks. Finally. Why didn't you start with this day ago.

YOU SEE GUYS. THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT. You sit back and realize how shit both sides are and that arguing over it is plain stupid. What the world need is a huge change and power need to change hands. As of now, corporations/msm/rich people dominate the world. It's that simple. If someone say no to this, he's simply the opposite of "WOKE" (God i hate that term)

At the end of the day, whatever party own the stage, it's the same problem. Shit salary, Shit healthcare in lot of places, Still the same struggles while Gov invest in the wrong places over and over, get caught in the same scandals and it's the same thing every 4 years. The real losers here are the people that are the one affected every 4 years. Rich people/corps/msm won't be because whatever side it goes, they are the one making it go that way.

$ drive the world. $ buy privileges and $ dictate your future. As simple as that.

This post was edited by SunnyvaleTrailerPark on Jan 21 2021 02:40pm
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Quote (thundercock @ Jan 21 2021 02:36pm)
There's absolutely no way that could happen unless you're talking about having all the cards. Yes, the Democrats had all the power but they were not unified in their solution.


I mean, yeah, that's exactly my point. They aren't some unified front of leftists that they are sometimes portrayed as. However I rarely see Democrats do or say things in bad faith the way I see it constantly out of Republicans.

Like, yeah, it happens sometimes, but when it's pointed out it's almost always obvious hyperbole (AOC saying we'll be dead in 12 years from climate change) or something that's just not specific enough (Obama quoting the 30 cent wage gap statistic).

but for Republicans it's almost all in bad faith, like Canada has worse healthcare because they have lines, or raising the minimum wage will send us into a depression, or global warming is faked by scientists for grant money (the conspiratorial stuff is rampant on the right). The only times it's something I really believe they're concerned about is the nebulous "freedom" stuff, which is where the conversation should be.

Our conversations should be about where to draw the line on freedom versus control, not on easily debunked "Universal healthcare will turn us into Venezuela".

Quote (SunnyvaleTrailerPark @ Jan 21 2021 02:37pm)
Fucking thanks. Finally. Why didn't you start with this day ago.


Dude, you need to pay better attention. I criticize Democrats ALL THE TIME.

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Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 21 2021 03:43pm)
I mean, yeah, that's exactly my point. They aren't some unified front of leftists that they are sometimes portrayed as. However I rarely see Democrats do or say things in bad faith the way I see it constantly out of Republicans.

Like, yeah, it happens sometimes, but when it's pointed out it's almost always obvious hyperbole (AOC saying we'll be dead in 12 years from climate change) or something that's just not specific enough (Obama quoting the 30 cent wage gap statistic).

but for Republicans it's almost all in bad faith, like Canada has worse healthcare because they have lines, or raising the minimum wage will send us into a depression, or global warming is faked by scientists for grant money (the conspiratorial stuff is rampant on the right). The only times it's something I really believe they're concerned about is the nebulous "freedom" stuff, which is where the conversation should be.

Our conversations should be about where to draw the line on freedom versus control, not on easily debunked "Universal healthcare will turn us into Venezuela".



Dude, you need to pay better attention. I criticize Democrats ALL THE TIME.


In the last days, you sounded like you blamed Republicans for whatever. I could've been wrong as i been talking to a few of y'all. I ain't perfect it happen.

What drove me nuts is seeing people being happy Trump is out to be replaced by Biden when both are so fucking bad. People should be fuming that you guys were forced to these shit options instead of younger/smarter people who understand the worlds need in 2021 in a world where things change real fast because we're in the Information age.

I been typing racist shit/shit i don't really think like or believe in just to get at people to show them how easy it is to annoy someone over the internet and that everyone can do so by pushing their keyboard buttons.

I'd prefer that people quickly realize political party are all the same shit and that the people should work together to make things change.

For that, people will have to stop throwing #Conspiracy everywhere and questions things for real. The real danger is that people been living online for so long that they lot lost track of what can really happen/not happen IRL and how far the MSM/Gov are willing to go to get what they want. People give too much credits to the establishment.

This post was edited by SunnyvaleTrailerPark on Jan 21 2021 02:48pm
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Jan 21 2021 02:53pm
i think we can all agree that Sunnyvale is an idiot.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 21 2021 03:53pm)
i think we can all agree that Sunnyvale is an idiot.


Facts. Lets unify around it.
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