You are literally a genocide denier. wow.

This makes me think about what the proper responses are to people like this.

Not good dude.



Because the far left and democrat authoritarianism are clearly on the rise and not getting enough push back.
That is clearly a far more important problem to me than any mean words Trump might have said to swamp creatures on his way out.

Trump's actual policies are not that far out of line with recent presidents, with some significant good differences. The idea that its some terrible and uniquely fascist presidency is not tied to reality.

They might;ve started out Socialism but once Hitler took over, it was no longer Socialism, Same thing with Mussolini.

Yes, and "personal reponsibilty" will be: take the power & wealth at any cost, even lying, saying you are a communist to attract more votes.
I understand that if you cannot even understand the essence of far right & fascism, our discussions have no way out.

I means; Hitler and moderated american independents conservatives are boths on the right oh lol ok.

No one said Far left is good...im just trying to see why aren't we worried about far right??

Left: Government has rights, people do not, beyond what the government grants them. Government has ownership over all.

Right: Individuals have rights, governments exist to serve the individual, and only has those rights the individuals give to them, individuals have ownerships over themselves and their private property.

The Nazis and Soviets were equally far left. The attempt to pronounce "populism" as a "far right" ideal in order to portray the Nazis as far right is simply a lie. Populists exist on the entire spectrum, as do globalists. All populism is is the belief that the actions of a state's government should all be directed towards the well-being of the people of that state. Globalism is the belief that the state's government should take actions that are seen as beneficial to the entire planet. The Nazis may have called themselves populists, but they weren't, were they? They didn't focus on improving their own state, instead, they attempted to expand their state to encompass the entire globe. Rather than using relatively peaceful political and capital means to accomplish a takeover of the world into their ideals, they sought to use violence. But their end goal was to turn the entire planet into one state. AKA globalization. And in the end, all power and ownership in the Nazi state rested in the hands of the government. While personal property did exist, it was so highly regulated and dictated by the government, that individuals could not be said to truly "own" anything at all.

Your argument lacks consistency.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Jan 7 2021 01:48am

holy fuck. how gullible can one person be? do you ever question ANYTHING you're told? because that idiotic talking point has debunked into oblivion (by historians, political scientists, and people with a working brain) about a million times.

Thats what we were told to believe, sure.

The left/right paradigm is an inadequate oversimplification of issues.

Nazism is a variant of socialism.
An authoritarian collectivist ideology involving high government control of person and property. Fascism has an incredible amount of overlap with progressivism and other socialist regimes.
Its not a right wing opposite of communism, contrary to how its often portrayed.

The modern right are not the ones interested in strict regimentation and government control of business and property. That is what the leftists/democrats are advocating.

i think you need a better understanding of each terms..
u do know that far right...Fascism is also dictatorship right? Both Far left and Far right are dictators...

i've only ever read reliably researched, well educated, and completely sane stuff after such an introduction.

*tips tin foil fedora

Left: Government has rights, people do not, beyond what the government grants them. Government has ownership over all.

Right: Individuals have rights, governments exist to serve the individual, and only has those rights the individuals give to them, individuals have ownerships over themselves and their private property.

How many times do I need to repeat this? Fascism is not possible under far right ideals, as the ideals of the far right is that you own your shit (including your own self) and nobody can tell you anything what to do with it. You have beachfront property and want to dump toxic waste in the water? Go ahead! Nobody can stop you. The "far right" at it's most extreme not only denies any form of fascism or communism, they promote active anarchy in favor of absolute personal liberty. The "moderate right", classed as conservatives, believe that while you should have personal rights and personal property rights, they need to be tempered to a point where you cannot actively harm the personal rights of others. They do not believe in an overwhelming government that can dictate anything to them. They believe the government should exist only as a means to ensure mutual defense, insure uninterrupted commerce, and deal with disasters such as fire, and insure that one person doesn't violate the personal and property rights of another person (police).

The moment you say "Far right dictator" you've just shown that you're a horseshoe theorist. Or you simply don't have a clearly defined scale of what right and left really are. In which case your words AND your topic are pointless, and you have such a lack of credibility that you should be laughed out of any conversation you attempt to join.