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Dec 5 2020 02:56pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Dec 5 2020 01:54pm)
'Here is this one leftist channel that is demonetized so i dont take claims that the right is censored seriously at all' is full clown material

so is "I know for a fact that there is more censorship against the left and the right is actively promoted."


He 'knows for a fact there is more censorship against the left' because anecdote. How very 'scientist' of him.
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Dec 5 2020 03:02pm
Man I love how people go out of their way to pick one thing I said and pretend there wasn't multiple points presented.

Quote (Santara @ Dec 5 2020 02:56pm)
He 'knows for a fact there is more censorship against the left' because anecdote. How very 'scientist' of him.


Yeah, because right wing channels are far more promoted than left wing ones, and that's apparent from the subscriber numbers, youtube recommendation trends, etc. etc.

There's dozens of videos where people "go down the YouTube rabbit hole" where people make a new account under a VPN and click videos to see how easy it is to get to the right wing conspiracy part of YouTube. It's really obvious how much YouTube promoted this stuff until they were actively called out for it.

I'm super left, as you know, and even I have to actively avoid YouTube's algorithm recommending me right wing content. For some reason just yesterday I had like 5 Rubin Report videos in my feed, a channel I've never interacted with and actively avoid because of how incredibly stupid Dave Rubin is.

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Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 5 2020 03:02pm)
Man I love how people go out of their way to pick one thing I said and pretend there wasn't multiple points presented.



Yeah, because right wing channels are far more promoted than left wing ones, and that's apparent from the subscriber numbers, youtube recommendation trends, etc. etc.

There's dozens of videos where people "go down the YouTube rabbit hole" where people make a new account under a VPN and click videos to see how easy it is to get to the right wing conspiracy part of YouTube. It's really obvious how much YouTube promoted this stuff until they were actively called out for it.

I'm super left, as you know, and even I have to actively avoid YouTube's algorithm recommending me right wing content. For some reason just yesterday I had like 5 Rubin Report videos in my feed, a channel I've never interacted with and actively avoid because of how incredibly stupid Dave Rubin is.


Promoting the right wing =/= censorship of the left wing, Thor.
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Dec 5 2020 03:10pm
What are these right wing channels they recommend you? Youtube wants engagement above all. I watch plenty of right wing channels, some leftwing and things throughout the middle. Most of my recommendations on my side bar default to Joe Rogan.
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Dec 5 2020 03:12pm
Quote (Santara @ Dec 5 2020 03:10pm)
Promoting the right wing =/= censorship of the left wing, Thor.


I already told you how they censor the left wing lol. More cherry picking

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What are these right wing channels they recommend you? Youtube wants engagement above all. I watch plenty of right wing channels, some leftwing and things throughout the middle. Most of my recommendations on my side bar default to Joe Rogan.


Rubin report, Fox News, I'll occasionally watch Jordan Peterson when it's recommended. I used to get recommended Sargon a lot.



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Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 5 2020 11:20am)
Resurrecting this thread for a case of censorship that I came across recently. I tried posting to the previous thread, but since it hasn't had responses in 90 days it wouldn't let me revive it.

This video outlines information about how the CIA can reasonably be described as a terrorist organization, and all the myriad ways they've screwed over Untied States citizens and dozens of foreign governments, and almost certainly continues to do so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2khAmMTAjI

It's made by a leftist YouTube channel that is virtually never monetized, and virtually never recommended. In addition, it was shadow banned for several days, so it didn't show up in searches even with the exact video title and channel name, and didn't even show up for subscribers for a while.

This is why I don't take conservative takes on conspiracy theories seriously. I follow half a dozen leftist YouTube channels that are virtually never recommended by the YouTube algorithm. Like, I'll listen to a playlist of theirs for an hour at work three days a week, and despite this I go to a new video I'm never automatically redirected to their videos as a recommendation. Meanwhile other less controversial channels I follow will be recommended 50 times despite the fact that I never listen to that channels videos more than once, and if I'm not careful I'll even get my feed actively redirected towards right wing sources. In my personal experience, YouTube actively redirects users away from left wing sources, and actively encourages right wing engagement.

So I don't take claims that the right is censored seriously at all, because I know for a fact that there is more censorship against the left and the right is actively promoted.


well i guess you hit the nail on the head. it's not directed at just the right or just the left but it is indeed happening and it is indeed creepy and fucked
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Dec 5 2020 03:21pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 5 2020 03:12pm)
I already told you how they censor the left wing


You told me how someone you followed got shadow banned for a little while, like it doesn't happen to hard rightists and libertarians.
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Dec 5 2020 03:26pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 5 2020 03:12pm)
I already told you how they censor the left wing lol. More cherry picking



Rubin report, Fox News, I'll occasionally watch Jordan Peterson when it's recommended. I used to get recommended Sargon a lot.


Censorship wise youtube will shit on anyone for any reason they please since there is no real drawback. People won't stop using em.

Jordan Peterson has crazy engagement with a high amount of users watching long videos to completion. If most of your recommendations are non-controversial its seeking engagement of some sort I'd assume.

I also don't see or hear of much long form (1+ hour) leftwing content on youtube. If you have a few I'm actually looking for more.

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You told me how someone you followed got shadow banned for a little while, like it doesn't happen to hard rightists and libertarians.


This ancap/anti-sjw channel I watch got banned not long ago for a while and they have never gotten monetized.

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Dec 5 2020 03:46pm
Quote (Santara @ Dec 5 2020 03:21pm)
You told me how someone you followed got shadow banned for a little while, like it doesn't happen to hard rightists and libertarians.


How he got shadowbanned, how his videos are never recommended, and that's pretty much the same for most of the channels I follow. Meanwhile it's super easy to fall down the far-right YouTube rabbit hole that dozens of people have made videos doing that exact thing and YouTube has had to actively respond to it and correct their algorithm to stop it from being so easy
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Dec 5 2020 03:56pm
I'm not sure why you're attacking cam...he supports YouTube having the right to do what they want since it's their own business. The free market will respond if there's true censorship by creating a website called ConMe or something like that.
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