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Nov 5 2020 01:30pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 5 2020 01:29pm)
No. Arizona had announced that they were going to stop counting, release results friday. Protesters said, "Nope, count them now!" It's not necessarily about any suppressed vote, simply that there's no reason for a person's vote not to be counted.

Michigan has all sorts of neat rumors flying around, but let's just stick with "alleged tampering and fraud" and they want the vote stopped until Challengers can be involved, and (I guess...?) a full recount. Hard to keep up with the shit coming from Trump about things right now.

Two very different protests, very different context. I'm on board with the Arizona "protesters". Count the votes, stop delaying. You have one fucking job. Count them! Regarding Michigan, idc. They'll get it worked out. Not going to continue trying to keep up with the rumor mill, just keeps getting more and more convoluted.


It's a huge mess for sure. We all knew this was happening. Its going to be a huge legal battle and both candidates should get their lawyers prepared.
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LOL! So much this
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It's a huge mess for sure. We all knew this was happening. Its going to be a huge legal battle and both candidates should get their lawyers prepared.


Not surprised he will spend the past months of his presidency serving himself :/
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Nov 5 2020 01:46pm
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Not surprised he will spend the past months of his presidency serving himself :/


The question is, once we have certified votes and the bullshit is done (hopefully by late this month) if Trump is winner, will Biden concede or take it to courts, if Biden is winner will trump concede or take it to courts?

Bottom line is, if either side can tie it up until the 14th of December, the House gets to pick the President, and the Senate gets to pick the Vice President. Each State's Delegation totals 1 vote (so um, basically majority rules from each state I guess?) First to 26 wins. I would assume a renewal of Pence as Vice President given Republican Senate majority. The question becomes President at that point. Given more states have red majorities in the house than blue (I THINK! Don't mark me 100% on this), that would point to Trump likely winning the House vote. But then again, plenty of Republican House members (old and incoming, though it'd only be the current House that'd vote, not incoming) don't much like Trump, and could theoretically vote for Biden or even Harris, or whoever else.

So... Going back to your original point, I'm curious as to the "self-serving" nature of it. Because I think if they can possibly manage it, both candidates would refuse to concede, regardless of count, and I think both candidates would rather put it to the House and Senate than take a loss. And in all likelihood, that'd probably guarantee a Republican Vice President, and quite possibly a Democrat President. Then, both sides win, because they can both be unhappy.

Fun, huh?

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Nov 5 2020 01:48pm
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why do they want to boost the count in Arizona ?


reading this

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CBS News correspondent Jamie Yuccas joined CBSN early Thursday with a report from Maricopa County, where ballots continue to be counted in the tightening race between President Trump and Joe Biden. Biden currently leads Mr. Trump in Arizona by around 68,000 votes. As votes were being tallied Wednesday night, protesters gathered outside, concerned that not all ballots were being counted.

The next batch of Maricopa results is expected to come Thursday around 10 p.m. Early Thursday morning, the county said that about 275,000 ballots, plus provisional ballots remained to be tallied.

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Seems it will end up the same way than everywhere else.

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why do they want to boost the count in Arizona ?


Your question makes no sense. All votes are not yet counted in Arizona. Nobody's talking about "boosting" votes. They're talking about finishing counting them. Arizona's still on the margin. Either Candidate can win.

Yesterday Arizona announced that they would hold off on finishing the count until Friday. That's what the protest was about. Nobody wants them to wait. Everyone wants them to finish counting.

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Your question makes no sense. All votes are not yet counted in Arizona. Nobody's talking about "boosting" votes. They're talking about finishing counting them. Arizona's still on the margin. Either Candidate can win.

Yesterday Arizona announced that they would hold off on finishing the count until Friday. That's what the protest was about. Nobody wants them to wait. Everyone wants them to finish counting.


"why do they want to boost the count in Arizona ?"

Did you read ?
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Nov 5 2020 02:07pm
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"why do they want to boostthe countin Arizona ?"

Did you read ?


Again, your question does not make sense. They need to FINISH COUNTING BALLOTS.

If your question is regarding provisional ballots, those are cast every election, and are the last to be counted. Typically most of them get thrown out, but some stay. They're ballots where the voter may or may not be eligible to vote. That's not an attempt to "boost" any vote.
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Nov 5 2020 02:16pm
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Again, your question does not make sense. They need to FINISH COUNTING BALLOTS.

If your question is regarding provisional ballots, those are cast every election, and are the last to be counted. Typically most of them get thrown out, but some stay. They're ballots where the voter may or may not be eligible to vote. That's not an attempt to "boost" any vote.



So they protest because the count is not fast enough ?

Wow, sad. Btw "typically" is maybe not applying like usual this time.

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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 5 2020 01:29pm)
No. Arizona had announced that they were going to stop counting, release results friday. Protesters said, "Nope, count them now!" It's not necessarily about any suppressed vote, simply that there's no reason for a person's vote not to be counted.

Michigan has all sorts of neat rumors flying around, but let's just stick with "alleged tampering and fraud" and they want the vote stopped until Challengers can be involved, and (I guess...?) a full recount. Hard to keep up with the shit coming from Trump about things right now.

Two very different protests, very different context. I'm on board with the Arizona "protesters". Count the votes, stop delaying. You have one fucking job. Count them! Regarding Michigan, idc. They'll get it worked out. Not going to continue trying to keep up with the rumor mill, just keeps getting more and more convoluted.


You must have missed the SharpieGate Memo.

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