Quote (RedFromWinter @ Nov 4 2020 04:20am)
Did you miss the federal appeals court ruling? Trump making false claims of broken mail in system. Post office shenanigans? The huge push of project Veritas alleged fraud as some democratic master plan.
Trump has done many things to undermine this elections integrity. We even have intimidation at okay this time.
The court ruling that ballots had to be received by election day? Yeah, what of it?
Trump hasn't made any "false claims" about the mail in system that anyone can accurately point out. The bottom line is that any error by the USPS could cost you your vote if you mail in a ballot, or rely on a ballot being mailed to you to fill out. Project Veritas showed some valid fraud, but so what?
The problem with your theory that encouraging people to vote in person undermines an election's integrity is so mind-numbingly stupid that I feel like I'm losing IQ points, tbh. But here, let me make you a list:
In Person Voting1. Citizen shows up to polling location.
2. Citizen shows proof of identification.
3. Citizen Votes.
4. Vote is counted.
Mail In Voting1. Election Committee puts ballot in the mail.
Problems: Is the address correct? Is the information on the ballot correct? Does the person still live there?2. Ballot is transported to the nearest Post Office.
Problems: Is the ballot thrown out or seized by the person handling said ballot? Is it damaged or destroyed?3. Ballot is sorted, and either transported to Post Office near recipient, or to the recipient.
Problems: Is the ballot thrown out or seized by the person handling said ballot? Is it damaged or destroyed?4. If in step 3, the ballot had to be shipped to local Post Office, ballot is now sent out to the recipient.
Problems: Is the ballot thrown out or seized by the person handling said ballot? Is it damaged or destroyed?5. Recipient fills out ballot, puts back in the mail.
Problems: Is the recipient the actual voter named in the ballot? Do they have a locked mailbox, or might somebody steal their ballot? Is the correct voter even still alive?6. Post office picks up ballot, brings back to post office.
Problems: Is the ballot thrown out or seized by the person handling said ballot? Is it damaged or destroyed?7. Post office ships ballot back to election committee.
Problems: Is the ballot thrown out or seized by the person handling said ballot? Is it damaged or destroyed?8. Signature on ballot is compared with drivers license, ballot is inspected for any damage, missed marks, etc.
Problems: Is the person's vote thrown out because they sign their name differently? Did they fill out the form incorrectly because they needed assistance? Was the ballot damaged somehow?9. Vote is counted.
The basic idea is that in-person voting is already verified and secure. There are no chain of custody issues, and there's no real opportunity to commit fraud, and you have 0 chance of your vote not being counted.
By attacking the very idea of unsolicited mail-in voting (as opposed to absentee voting), Trump was DEFENDING the integrity of the voting process. I don't care if you like or hate Trump, that's all you. However, when he promotes the safest, most secure, reliable way to vote he is in no way "undermining election integrity."
