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Oct 30 2020 08:13am
Quote (thesnipa @ 30 Oct 2020 09:24)
isn't it funny that these emails, which apparently have no shred of credibility, caused the New York Post to be banned from twitter, along with the Whitehouse Press Secretary, and is causing issues like this.

Like i get it, the story looks shady as hell, but the overreaction legitimizes them 100x more in the eyes of the public than the Post printing them.

that and reporting on the post's reporting and censorship allegations isnt banned, so people still find the story. it did nothing to keep people from seeing it, what we would assume the goal of censorship is, it had the opposite effect.

I think its clear the left establishment is scared shitless of a Comey-Wiener-Laptop moment sinking Biden. but their constant worry has made them more jumpy than Tim kaine at the VP debate.

allow the post type articles, then put your efforts into debunking articles. if clouding the national conversation is your goal that is.

it’s the lefty mantra: we decide what is fit to print, and we will tell you what to read and how to feel about it. if you don’t agree with that well you’re against freedom and the 1st amendment (something like that)
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Oct 30 2020 08:21am
Quote (excellence @ Oct 30 2020 09:13am)
it’s the lefty mantra: we decide what is fit to print, and we will tell you what to read and how to feel about it. if you don’t agree with that well you’re against freedom and the 1st amendment (something like that)


I dont agree with the leftist goals by-and-large, but what i dont respect is a group so poor at accomplishing their goals.

have whatever beliefs you want, but i detest poor gamesmanship. just be better.
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Oct 30 2020 08:24am
Quote (IceMage @ Oct 30 2020 10:10am)
I thought the proposed edits were mostly right. The editor pointed out some important context that should've been added or amplified.

But instead of engaging in a healthy back and forth Glenn threw a tantrum, and went on to trash his colleagues. Good riddance.


https://taibbi.substack.com/p/glenn-greenwald-on-his-resignation

An interesting read from a journalist on what editors say and what they mean.

Glenn was being asked to accept "context" where the reverse was clearly not true, and where his editors disagreed not with any of his facts but with his conclusions, which is obviously the entire point of investigative journalism.

Glenn is echoing the same complaints that he had during the Snowden case. Journalist uncritically regurgitate the opinions of the powers that be. The powers that be hate Trump, and that needs to be the party line.

If you behave like a good conservative, you will be lauded when useful (Romney, McCain) and otherwise maligned when not. Conservatives have been calling this out for decades, but it took Trump for it to come clearly out in the open. Instead of cloaking right immigration policies in leftist approved rhetoric, the penalty for which is to be called an undercover racist, he advocated for it in the open, and the result has been a war.

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Oct 30 2020 08:28am
Quote (bogie160 @ Oct 30 2020 09:24am)
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/glenn-greenwald-on-his-resignation

An interesting read from a journalist on what editors say and what they mean.

Glenn was being asked to accept "context" where the reverse was clearly not true, and where his editors disagreed not with any of his facts but with his conclusions, which is obviously the entire point of investigative journalism.

Glenn is echoing the same complaints that he had during the Snowden case. Journalist uncritically regurgitate the opinions of the powers that be. The powers that be hate Trump, and that needs to be the party line.

If you behave like a good conservative, you will be lauded when useful (Romney, McCain) and otherwise maligned when not. Conservatives have been calling this out for decades, but it took Trump for it to come clearly out in the open. Instead of cloaking right immigration policies in leftist approved rhetoric, the penalty for which is to be called an undercover racist, he advocated for it in the open, and the result has been a war.


as always the biggest crux to people seeing these as a valid issue worth getting off of the couch for is that it takes Alex Jones, Milo, Trump, etc for them to see it, at which time they wont get off their couch in defense of Alex jones and Co.

its how the media gets away with it, their censorship is pervasive generally but subtle, and where it's hamfisted its targeting people no one will jump up to defend. and even if a groundswell formed, it just normalizes the slight orwellian behavior and signals that only severe cases are an actual problem.
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Oct 30 2020 08:29am
Quote (thesnipa @ 30 Oct 2020 10:21)
I dont agree with the leftist goals by-and-large, but what i dont respect is a group so poor at accomplishing their goals.

have whatever beliefs you want, but i detest poor gamesmanship. just be better.

as black xisten and i opined when the story first broke: just letting it run its course, heck even just saying it’s “fake news” and dismissing it would have the story out of the news cycle in the usual 24-48 hour span.

but they tried to do a cover up and its been weeks now, story is still alive and ny post is still locked on twitter lmao
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Oct 30 2020 08:40am
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as black xisten and i opined when the story first broke: just letting it run its course, heck even just saying it’s “fake news” and dismissing it would have the story out of the news cycle in the usual 24-48 hour span.

but they tried to do a cover up and its been weeks now, story is still alive and ny post is still locked on twitter lmao


Biden campaign tries as hard as they can to go full dark mode on the story and no comment their way out of a 48 hour news cycle and Twitter jumps up to instead extend it out to a 3 week story due to banning anyone who even thinks of posting a link to a national newspaper.....

I'd love to hear Biden's campaign manager call to Twitter, like wtf are you doing fuckwits?
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Oct 30 2020 08:42am
Quote (bogie160 @ Oct 30 2020 10:24am)
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/glenn-greenwald-on-his-resignation

An interesting read from a journalist on what editors say and what they mean.

Glenn was being asked to accept "context" where the reverse was clearly not true, and where his editors disagreed not with any of his facts but with his conclusions, which is obviously the entire point of investigative journalism.

Glenn is echoing the same complaints that he had during the Snowden case. Journalist uncritically regurgitate the opinions of the powers that be. The powers that be hate Trump, and that needs to be the party line.


I don't know how Glenn's article could be called journalism of any kind. Glenn's not really a journalist who reports on things anymore... he's a media critic. That's really all he does these days.
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Oct 30 2020 08:43am
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 30 2020 10:40am)
Biden campaign tries as hard as they can to go full dark mode on the story and no comment their way out of a 48 hour news cycle and Twitter jumps up to instead extend it out to a 3 week story due to banning anyone who even thinks of posting a link to a national newspaper.....

I'd love to hear Biden's campaign manager call to Twitter, like wtf are you doing fuckwits?


Big corporations aren't truly that concerned about the election in an absolute sense. On some level, media stands to make more $ if trump is re elected. So it's a win win for them no matter what happens. Biden wins, they just have their puppet in the house, if Trump wins, they just get to cash in and do the same shit they did for the last 4 years of a 24/7 news cycle trump this trump that because trump plays the game too.

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Oct 30 2020 08:49am
Quote (thesnipa @ 30 Oct 2020 10:40)
Biden campaign tries as hard as they can to go full dark mode on the story and no comment their way out of a 48 hour news cycle and Twitter jumps up to instead extend it out to a 3 week story due to banning anyone who even thinks of posting a link to a national newspaper.....

I'd love to hear Biden's campaign manager call to Twitter, like wtf are you doing fuckwits?



i’m sure it was along the lines of “hey you fellas have been on our payroll for a long time. the arrangement is for you to censor trump, not other journalists which may make us look bad”
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Oct 30 2020 08:50am
Quote (sir_lance_bb @ Oct 30 2020 09:43am)
Big corporations aren't truly that concerned about the election in an absolute sense. On some level, media stands to make more $ if trump is re elected. So it's a win win for them no matter what happens. Biden wins, they just have their puppet in the house, if Trump wins, they just get to cash in and do the same shit they did for the last 4 years of a 24/7 news cycle trump this trump that because trump plays the game too.


oh 100%, i expect channels like CNN to be in dire straights if Trump leaves office, the layoffs will be insane. they'll "slim down to better fit into the internet era", according to them, but Trump was a can of gas that got them 100 miles deeper into the dessert that is dying TV cable media.

Quote (excellence @ Oct 30 2020 09:49am)
i’m sure it was along the lines of “hey you fellas have been on our payroll for a long time. the arrangement is for you to censor trump, not other journalists which may make us look bad”


i'd say Biden is on twitters payroll, if anything. but i agree with lance above, theyre too big to care who's in office and know social media regulation isnt likely and will be ineffectual for a decade anyways.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Oct 30 2020 08:51am
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