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Oct 9 2020 02:20pm
Quote (Santara @ Oct 9 2020 01:04pm)
Who's gonna get caught for sending in someone else's ballot?


When the signature is mismatched. They will contact the persons involved and an investigation will start.
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Oct 9 2020 02:23pm
Quote (thundercock @ Oct 9 2020 03:20pm)
When the signature is mismatched. They will contact the persons involved and an investigation will start.


How do they know who got the ballot?
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Oct 9 2020 02:24pm
Quote (Santara @ Oct 9 2020 04:23pm)
How do they know who got the ballot?


The same way your electric company knows you get your bill every month -- the mail.
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Oct 9 2020 02:26pm
Quote (Santara @ Oct 9 2020 01:23pm)
How do they know who got the ballot?


All of that is documented.

E: I can't speak for Ohio, but in my state, I can track the status of my ballot at all times. I know which post office it traveled to, when it was delivered, etc. Once I'm done voting, I'll be able to track it through the mail until it reaches the registrars office. Once received, I can track processing and whether or not my vote counted.

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The same way your electric company knows you get your bill every month -- the mail.


The mail is how the ballot arrived. But how do they know that "Robert Johnson's" ballot went to "Fred Smith's" house? How do they stop Fred Smith from signing "Robert Johnson" and sending in his ballot?
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Quote (Skinned @ Oct 9 2020 03:24pm)
The same way your electric company knows you get your bill every month -- the mail.


ya but what if a crazy hobo uses my mail for TP, checkmate electric company.
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Oct 9 2020 02:30pm
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The mail is how the ballot arrived. But how do they know that "Robert Johnson's" ballot went to "Fred Smith's" house? How do they stop Fred Smith from signing "Robert Johnson" and sending in his ballot?


If I stole your ballot, do you think that when I sign "Grand Wizard Santara" it will match up with what's recorded at your DMV/initial ballot application?
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Oct 9 2020 02:39pm
Quote (thundercock @ Oct 9 2020 03:30pm)
If I stole your ballot, do you think that when I sign "Grand Wizard Santara" it will match up with what's recorded at your DMV/initial ballot application?


Whether the signature matches or not is not what I'm concerned about. As was previously noted, how closely do you think tired election workers are going to be when matching them?

I want to know how they could possibly catch the person who fraudulently returned someone else's ballot.
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Oct 9 2020 02:43pm
Democrats need to keep pushing the message that people should vote in person if they can.
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Signature matching is not a reliable form of security for an election. The false positive and false negative rates are so astoundingly unacceptable that it winds up being just ignored in practice most elections. If I submitted my vote by mail this election, I estimate 20%+ chance it wouldnt be received and 40%+ chance if received they'd say my signature doesnt match and discard it, because my signature is a mess

This is one major league fuckup. You cant just put the cat back in the box here. What will happen to these 50000 ballots? When thet mail out 50000 more, will votes be cast twice? Who will resolve the conflicts?

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