you are unironically one of the most stupid, gullible, and biased people i know. we just don't realise how bad you really are because we're also surrounded by virtually braindead mouthbreathers like bi-ghot, endlesscry, exshillence, and camboy - but posts like that certainly help.

just to be clear, i'm not suggesting that christians aren't persecuted - in several regions of the world they clearly are, and that is undeniably terrible and worth drawing attention to - but your silly attempt to win the oppression olympics (something your camp unironically accuses everyone else of) by making such ridiculous claims, is a perfect illustration of how narrow-minded and warped your worldview is.

You’re the one who thinks the 2nd and 3rd reichs were wronged by the rest of the world. in the world wars the german empire and national-socialist germany started

lol @ the prussian wannabe bot “fender”

The 2009 study I mentioned did look into the persecution of all religions, not just that of Christians.
Also note that Pew Research conducted a similar study in 2018-2019 which came basically to the same conclusions as the one commissioned by Jeremy Hunt.



I'm not participating in "oppression olympics", lol. I'm not seeking a victim status, I'm an atheist and dont even identify that much with Christians. And unlike liberals, I'm not trying to derive any privilege or entitlement out any sort of perceived or real victim status.
It must be possible to state a surprising fact without being accused of partaking in oppression olympics.

To lefties, the notion that the West is in fact not the most bigoted, racist and/or religiously intolerant region of the world, that other places are actually far worse in these regards, must be truly preposterous and sound like blasphemy.




Regarding this "Christians are the most persecuted religious group in the world"-thing: just remember all the attacks and massacres by Boko Haram islamists against Christian settlements in Nigeria. Keep in mind the huge bombing in Sri Lanka from last year. Keep in mind how Christians are going (numerically) extinct in the Middle East and Northern Africa (while the share of people of Middle Eastern or North African descent in European countries steadily climbs), how they're persecuted in Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan. Keep in mind how they're persecuted in China, North Korea and increasingly also in Indonesia.


As a very simple guideline, think about it this way: Christianity and Islam are the two largest world religions by a big margin, so at least in absolute terms, one of these two will be the "most persecuted religion in the world". Then ask yourself who experiences more discrimination in the realm of the respective other: muslims in the Western world, or Christians in the muslim world.

This doesnt make sense.

I was just told we never discuss international issues on this forum.

I wish I knew more. I literally don't know anything about either of these countries, let alone their tenuous relationship. In fact, I wouldn't even be able to find them on a map.

theyre next to each other west of turkey/south of russia and are former soviet republics. their turf war likely predates Jamestown much less the USA

ty4i

This conflict is literally over a century old, it has flared up time and time again. These recent hostilities are perhaps the worst escalation of the conflict in decades though. Both Armenia and Azerbaijan are tiny, remote and relatively poor countries. They're fighting over an even more tiny, more remote and more poor piece of land called "Nagorno Karabakh", because... reasons. *shrug*

As a very rough guideline: Armenia is the poorer of the two countries, traditionally allied with Russia and has an extremely tenuous, hostile relationship with its western neighbor Turkey, dating back to the Armenian genocide. Azerbaijan was a similarly underdeveloped country until it was found that their long shoreline in the Caspian Sea contains access to substantial oil fields. This has brought some wealth to the country in recent decades, but its distribution is of course very lopsided. Azerbaijan has traditionally been aligned with the U.S. and Turkey. Armenia has a predominantly Orthodox Christian population, while Azerbaijan is predominantly muslim. The human rights situation in both countries is generally poor, but not completely abysmal.

The U.S. doesnt seem to play any role in the recent skirmishes, so it seems likely that this is either a proxy fight between Putin and Erdogan, or the local leaders going ham.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Sep 27 2020 10:18pm

White guilt intensifies

They’re persecuted under the law in Modi’s government, so it can be applied broad brush. Trust you to take that literally like I meant 170m Muslims have been chased down the street by Hindus