Most countries are not optimized for dealing with a bad tenant including your own.

to be fair, it's very difficult to balance the law in a way to give both tenants and landlords the protection they need. i know the concern of trying to find reliable tenants, though luckily i live in a more rural area, and so far hadn't had any bad luck yet, but you sure read and hear about those horror stories of rent defaulters leaving behind expensive messes, and i completely understand why landlords would be concerned about any additional universal protections.

still, weighing the hardship of some unlucky landlords against literally millions of renters facing eviction during a global pandemic, it's not a tough call for me.

Sure but in my opinion the earnings cut off is absolutly absurd. 198k joint... I think it should be lower.

This.

I have friends & family who are landlords. I used to work with this guy who was a huge bernie bro and hated Trump to the bone. He saved and bought a rental property in his mid 20s. Had his dad help him remodel it, put a ton of money into it. He told me how he had a section 8 renter and how at first he was all excited about it. His logic was that because they're on section 8 and gov't is essentially paying their rent they'd never miss rent and he'd always get his money on time without issue. He started getting complaints from neighbors because the people living there had a lot of traffic in and out, something you'd see out of a drug house. Eventually they moved out, leaving the place absolutely trashed, he showed me pictures... literally it looked like the people used the bedrooms as garbage dumps. Grime everywhere, kitchen top trashed, etc. Damage was assessed at around 6 grand. Years later he's still unable to collect anything for all of that damage. He can't sue the people because they have nothing and rely on gov't assistance, he can't sue gov't. He regrets ever buying the house to rent because 2-3 tenants like this absolutely make it not worth it and there is very little you can do.

in most rural areas probably yes, agreed. would probably be better (but also more complicated) legislation if the threshold was in relation to the rent index, but again, given the unique situation, and the fact that it's (as far as i understand) just a temporary measure until the end of the year, i'm fine with erring on the side of caution.

We have a working process, seems you dont know well how it works here.
How about bad landlords ? Thus they know the risk.



It's not easy. We better simply jump on the social reason of why there's so much tenants, social fracture, and shitty cherry pick up of youtube examples.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Sep 2 2020 11:34am

Bring back homesteading.

I learned something interesting. Most white families can trace their familial wealth back to being given land for free in the 1800's, and frequently minorities were excluded from these programs.

Who knew that which races had access to homesteads would be such an important factor in race relations today.

I wish my high school history teachers had framed things this way when teaching, instead of just mentioning homesteads and going on to the next fact. It would have made me value history a lot earlier and given context to why things are the way they are today.

Serfdom

Most whites can trace their families to some time around 1900s when many immigrants from Germany, Scandinavia, Russia, Poland, Italy, etc came to the states. Most of these people settled into big cities and worked in factories in shitty conditions. During that time, people weren't moving to the west for free land but rather staying in the cities because that's where the industrial jobs were. What you're talking about is probably some time between 1800-1900.

So no, most whites can't trace their wealth to land given to their great grandfathers because most whites today are not of anglo saxon decent who have 200 years of settlement history here.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Sep 2 2020 12:13pm