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Aug 20 2020 11:58pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Aug 21 2020 12:50am)
The countries that have experienced a socialist revolution seem to always have serious issues with human rights abuses that make the us look like sweden. Gonna pass on this socialist revolution idea.


Said the person from the socialist country. You dirty northies and your public healthcare make me sick. Get yourself some real freedom!
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Aug 21 2020 12:23am
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Said the person from the socialist country. You dirty northies and your public healthcare make me sick. Get yourself some real freedom!


Once you've consumed the wealth that other people worked for you'll find out what real socialism is. Go for it bud

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Man, you've really convinced me by repeating those Republican talking points without a second thought.

Truly insightful. I wish I had your copy/paste abilities.

This will almost certainly convince many people and result in vigorous discussion of the topic with plenty of nuance.



Saying that something is a talking point in no way refutes its validity.
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Aug 21 2020 01:48am
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Once you've consumed the wealth that other people worked for you'll find out what real socialism is. Go for it bud


By the time you got through just bezos wealth we would have ended homelessness america wide, rebuilt flint michigan from the ground up with new pipes, and probably given every single amazon employee $200,000 with change to spare.
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By the time you got through just bezos wealth we would have ended homelessness america wide, rebuilt flint michigan from the ground up with new pipes, and probably given every single amazon employee $200,000 with change to spare.



Bezos' wealth isn't a dollar amount you can just go withdraw from a bank account and distribute as you please. It's primarily Amazon stocks and other assets. So your proposal ends Amazon as we know it and halts any consideration of future growth and ends hundreds of thousands of jobs. At least you called it Bezos' wealth so you admit it's his, and you want to steal it. I'm no fan of Bezos, I think the fact that someone like him can exist demonstrates a flaw in capitalism, but I reject your prescription of socialism/communism to address the issue of wealth pooling at one end.

Amazon employs almost 800k people so 200k to each of them is 160 billion of your 195 billion budget already spent. Woops, sorry homeless people and Flint, I'm a socialist and can barely see beyond the tip of my nose, my bad :p
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Bezos' wealth isn't a dollar amount you can just go withdraw from a bank account and distribute as you please. It's primarily Amazon stocks and other assets. So your proposal ends Amazon as we know it and halts any consideration of future growth and ends hundreds of thousands of jobs. At least you called it Bezos' wealth so you admit it's his, and you want to steal it. I'm no fan of Bezos, I think the fact that someone like him can exist demonstrates a flaw in capitalism, but I reject your prescription of socialism/communism to address the issue of wealth pooling at one end.

Amazon employs almost 800k people so 200k to each of them is 160 billion of your 195 billion budget already spent. Woops, sorry homeless people and Flint, I'm a socialist and can barely see beyond the tip of my nose, my bad :p


Oh no think of the minimum wage jobs! some one else will fill the gap and pay the poor bastards the same garbage wage, would not even notice if amazon was gone.
Go look up the price to fix flints water issues, it will surprise you.

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Quote (Plaguefear @ Aug 21 2020 09:48am)
By the time you got through just bezos wealth we would have ended homelessness america wide, rebuilt flint michigan from the ground up with new pipes, and probably given every single amazon employee $200,000 with change to spare.


You do realize that just the first COVID relief package (CARES act) is worth 2.2 trillion right.

I honestly think you have no clue about the amount of money going around everywhere. Are you living in a cave?

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Quote (Djunior @ Aug 21 2020 06:10pm)
You do realize that just the first COVID relief package (CARES act) is worth 2.2 trillion right.

I honestly think you have no clue about the amount of money going around everywhere. Are you living in a cave?


You make my point for me, 20 people in america can cover the cost of a global pandemic for the entire country of 300 million.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Aug 21 2020 02:12am
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Aug 21 2020 10:12am)
You make my point for me, 20 people in america can cover the cost of a global pandemic for the entire country.


Moving the goalposts a factor 20x, typical.

Now get real and on the topic you quoted me for, for how many years can the entire nation live of that money before they face the cost of socialism and everything crumbling around them. Go ;)

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Quote (Djunior @ Aug 21 2020 06:15pm)
Moving the goalposts a factor 20x, typical.

Now get real and on the topic you quoted me for, for how many years can the entire nation live of that money before they face the cost of socialism and everything crumbling around them. Go ;)


Nationalise resources, create a sovereign wealth fund and use that to fund a ubi and implement a negative income tax that caps out at 30%, close all tax loopholes and apply tax to all bonuses including share bonuses.
Money will never run out, capitalism continues as normal, the billionaire class ceases to exist, people can still become ridiculously wealthy.

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