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Aug 13 2020 07:59pm
Quote (duffman316 @ 13 Aug 2020 21:22)
Liberals wont touch this issue because discrimination against minorities is ok if they're doing too well and over represented in academia.

they showed up right on schedule to show their contempt for asians and to a lesser extent white people that are not themselves. two of the more paler pasty privileged lefties too.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Exclusion_Act

I have no idea why you're so uneducated on this, but reducing Asian success to some mythical "Chang is so smart!" propaganda campaign is incredibly racist.

by his own admission he lives in a land with near-zero diversity so he really doesn't have to interact with 'those people'
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Quote (bogie160 @ Aug 13 2020 08:50pm)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Exclusion_Act

I have no idea why you're so uneducated on this, but reducing Asian success to some mythical "Chang is so smart!" propaganda campaign is incredibly racist.


I'm not reducing anything, and your quoted act was nearly 100 years before the campaign I was referencing.

Believe it or not, but you can point out societal pressures without ignoring the work of individuals. But you're a Trump cultist, so I expect that level of nuance is above you
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It reinforces a cultural understanding that whites and asians are inherently superior. It increases racial animosity, inherently segregated along racial and ethnic lines, and serves only to create a "upper" class among the targeted ethnic group.

It's just bad policy.



Not inherently superior, inherently privileged. The objective is to remove classes entirely.
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Aug 13 2020 08:39pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Aug 13 2020 08:54pm)
It reinforces a cultural understanding that whites and asians are inherently superior. It increases racial animosity, inherently segregated along racial and ethnic lines, and serves only to create a "upper" class among the targeted ethnic group.

It's just bad policy.


You're doing a shit load of projecting here
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 13 2020 09:43pm)
Take a group of people, make it effectively illegal for them to build wealth, and then only stop obvious discrimination but keep writing laws that actively harms the community.

Now take a different group and actively import the best and brightest from their country of origin, make propaganda about how great their group is.

Is it discrimination to try to correct this? Because that's what all of these "they discriminated against Asians and Whites" stuff is. It's more complicated than "they discriminated against X group!" because different groups have different histories and different relationships to the government.


Affirmative action has been around for a long time right? What measurable impact has it produced on the standard of living for the black community. I'd be curious to see the data.
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Affirmative action has been around for a long time right? What measurable impact has it produced on the standard of living for the black community. I'd be curious to see the data.


It's hard to isolate single policies. Turns out society is complicated. And thats why id never study sociology.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 13 2020 10:05pm)
I'm not reducing anything, and your quoted act was nearly 100 years before the campaign I was referencing.

Believe it or not, but you can point out societal pressures without ignoring the work of individuals. But you're a Trump cultist, so I expect that level of nuance is above you


Let's take the content of your post at face value. Is opposition to affirmative action a position unique to Trump? His supporters? Did he bring it to relevance in the last 4 years, or in the last 10? Or has opposition to affirmative action been a long-standing position among a broad swathe of the American public? It's a rhetorical question, which leads one to wonder why your immediate response is to start screeching about "cultists" like a simpleton. You lack the general self-awareness required to see that you are the mirror in true form of the "cult" you spend so much time ranting about.

It's interesting to note that a good number of the posters on this forum (some conservative no less), show a remarkable level of nuance when it comes to Trump. They have the intellectual force, as low as that bar is, required to judge the situation on a case by case basis. By contrast, have a frustrating need to simplify the world to fit into a narrow, simplistic worldview filled with moral, intelligent liberals and evil, dim-witted conservatives. It's not a particularly bright take.
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Quote (inkanddagger @ Aug 13 2020 10:27pm)
Not inherently superior, inherently privileged. The objective is to remove classes entirely.


The modern left's racial theory may end up being studied for hundreds of years as double-think in pure form. End class by creating classes, absolutely brilliant.
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they showed up right on schedule to show their contempt for asians and to a lesser extent white people that are not themselves. two of the more paler pasty privileged lefties too.


by his own admission he lives in a land with near-zero diversity so he really doesn't have to interact with 'those people'



I showed my contempt for a class system, which is expressed through systemic racial privilege. There is no inherent contempt for simple genetics. This is simply a false narrative you had to create to protect yourself from the truth. I don't know why you think it would be so utterly damaging to your ego to admit to the reality that class privilege exists. I suppose it's because you're afraid being seen as weak and imperfect. But that's exactly how you are seen by those who aren't bought into your toxic fabrication to protect their own fragile egos from harm. How sad conservatives are. Pathetic.
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The modern left's racial theory may end up being studied for hundreds of years as double-think in pure form. End class by creating classes, absolutely brilliant.


The fact that you thought this was clever, let alone made any sense, is pitiable.
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