Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 13 2020 03:00pm)
fixed, again.
I know you won't actually go back and reread to see your obvious misunderstanding so I'll explain.
I like that they've started diplomatic relations. I have heavy doubts that the Trump administration played an important role in that.
basically to negotiate u need leverage. the US has leverage over UAE in the arena of oil, and over Israel in the arena of arms deals. the leverage is there, i just dont see Trump using it. last thing he wants is high gas prices or lost military deals coming up on election.
my tinfoil theory is that we actually paid to be "in on it", and that this peace was already near done. as ive asked a bunch of times now, why would the most liberal oil rich progressive industrialized nation that does not share a border with Israel want a war with Israel anyways. and how much of the israeli ME conflicts did they comprise? they're 2500 Kilometers away with all of Saudi Arabia between them.
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After the inauguration of U.S. President Barack Obama in 2009, the Israeli and UAE ambassadors to the United States made a joint appeal in a meeting with the incoming administration's Middle East adviser to urge a tougher U.S. line on Iran.[3]
In September 2012, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu met with UAE Foreign Minister Abdullah bin Zayed Al Nahyan in New York. Although they agreed on the threat of Iran, the UAE refused to publicly improve relations without progress in the Israel-Palestine peace process.[8]
In 2015, the Israeli Ambassador to the United States, Ron Dermer, briefed his UAE counterpart Yousef Al Otaiba on Israel's opposition to the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action and urged the UAE to take a more active role in opposing the deal.[3]
Close to the end of Obama's second term as U.S. President, U.S. intelligence agencies became aware of phone communication between the two countries' officials, including between Netanyahu and a senior UAE leader, and a meeting between Netanyahu and UAE leadership in Cyprus, which was focused on cooperation against Iran.[3]
so essentially the wheels have been turning due to Iran for a long time and the deal is now more formal based on Israeli agreements to stop settlements in line with Palestinian asks.
im curious to find out what role Trump/Kushner played in Israel's change in policy on Palestine. that clearly didnt get done under Obama, even though UAE/Israel tensions eased as a result of the growing iranian threat.
Quote (excellence @ Aug 13 2020 03:11pm)
i will fucking find you, take you to a bar, tell you im gonna buy you a nice beer, then secretly give u BudLight and convince u your taste is gone due to corona.
This post was edited by thesnipa on Aug 13 2020 02:16pm