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Aug 10 2020 12:16pm
Quote (Santara @ Aug 10 2020 02:05pm)
End insurance-as-prepaid-healthcare and allow an actual free market.


Or do something we know works well.
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Quote (Santara @ Aug 10 2020 02:05pm)
End insurance-as-prepaid-healthcare and allow an actual free market.


How much do you think people should pay to not die from treatable illnesses.
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Quote (Santara @ Aug 10 2020 01:05pm)
End insurance-as-prepaid-healthcare and allow an actual free market.


even if costs were 1/10th what healthcare pays providers cancer would bankrupt 99% of people.

we could make health insurance cover more serious issues and cut out overpriced regular visits/procedures, but i doubt many people will save the excess for a rainy day.

i just dont see ala carte healthcare as a very good option, it will cause massive bankruptcies with the population we have. hell even child birth would fuck up society if it was out of pocket.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 10 2020 01:17pm)
even if costs were 1/10th what healthcare pays providers cancer would bankrupt 99% of people.

we could make health insurance cover more serious issues and cut out overpriced regular visits/procedures, but i doubt many people will save the excess for a rainy day.

i just dont see ala carte healthcare as a very good option, it will cause massive bankruptcies with the population we have. hell even child birth would fuck up society if it was out of pocket.


I didn't say eliminate insurance. Cancer is the type of catastrophe that insurance is designed for.

Quote (Skinned @ Aug 10 2020 01:16pm)
Or do something we know works well.


Lol.

Quote (duffman316 @ Aug 10 2020 01:17pm)
How much do you think people should pay to not die from treatable illnesses.


As much as it's worth?
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Quote (Santara @ Aug 10 2020 03:21pm)
I didn't say eliminate insurance. Cancer is the type of catastrophe that insurance is designed for.



Lol.



As much as it's worth?


If they can't afford it?
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Quote (Santara @ Aug 10 2020 03:21pm)
I didn't say eliminate insurance. Cancer is the type of catastrophe that insurance is designed for.



Lol.



As much as it's worth?


Isn't the worth of something whatever someone is willing to pay for it in the libertarian world? Sounds like a great way to go brankrupt very quickly.
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Aug 10 2020 02:01pm
Quote (Santara @ Aug 10 2020 02:21pm)
I didn't say eliminate insurance. Cancer is the type of catastrophe that insurance is designed for.



Lol.



As much as it's worth?


All im saying is in a nation with such a massive % of people living paycheck to paycheck (sub $1000 in savings) i dont see eliminating insurance as a net positive. they'll normalize their spending and not save any more than they would if insured.

philosophically/morally, sure valid practice. in reality tho, wont make things better overall by a LONGSHOT.
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Quote (Santara @ Aug 10 2020 11:05am)
End insurance-as-prepaid-healthcare and allow an actual free market.


What does that mean though? The same procedure will have a different cost based on the type of insurance you have. Even if you have full transparency, no one will know what things mean because you need to be a medical expert to understand how and why they are used.
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Aug 10 2020 02:47pm
Yeah just allow the free market to murder people, it's not like the rest of the world already worked out that allowing generics and universal healthcare works.
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