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Jul 31 2020 09:52am
TRUMP WORKS FOR CHINA.


First act he does in office he pulls out of the pacific trade agreement, a bonehead move for any American business, and now China owns it and runs it.

Wuhan virus comes from China Trump literally denies everything the whole time like an idiot

Trump sold a fuck tonne of military equipment to the Chinese


https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/07/why-china-wants-donald-trump-win/613864/

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In a highly unusual comment, the former Chinese trade negotiator Long Yongtu reportedly told a Shenzhen conference late last year, “We want Trump to be reelected; we would be glad to see that happen.”


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In May, Hu Xijin, the outspoken editor of the Communist Party–-run newspaper Global Times, tweeted at Trump that the Chinese “wish for your reelection because you can make America eccentric and thus hateful for the world. You help promote unity in China.” Hu added that “Chinese netizens call you ‘Jianguo,’ meaning ‘help to construct China.’”


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What gives? Many Americans believe (erroneously) that Trump is the first president to stand up to China. After all, his administration has slapped tariffs on China’s exports, sanctioned some of its most important companies and officials, and pressured Beijing to play fair on trade—and the Chinese want more? Sure, Beijing would much rather have avoided a costly trade spat with its largest customer. But Trump may not strike as much terror in the hearts of Beijing’s top cadres as you might expect.


More evidence China wants Trump to win because he will allow them to instill their policies.
https://www.businessinsider.com/china-wants-trump-win-election-keep-destroying-us-alliances-bloomberg-2020-6

Trump Allegedly Blowing off the Virus for several weeks while knowing it came from China.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/03/how-much-pressure-did-trump-put-china-access-concerning-coronavirus/
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Prescott noted that on Jan. 22, shortly after the first case was detected in the United States, Trump was asked in an interview about the coronavirus and he dismissed it. “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control,” he said.


Evidence of Trump shaming others for eing nice to China, all the while he gives them everything they want. Trump doing his normal control of his voters, shadowing his intentions.
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-07-27/attacks-on-joe-bidens-missteps-in-china-blunted-by-trumps-own-failures-there



HERE IS THE MONEY BY THE WAY:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/political-donors-linked-to-china-won-access-to-trump-gop-11592925569

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Soon after Donald Trump took office, people with ties to the Chinese state poured hundreds of thousands of dollars into his re-election bid to get close to and potentially influence the new president.


Trump 'unclear' about how to handle Beijing. indecisive. A True American President wouldnt have backed out of the Pacific trade deal and 2 would have a damn good idea what to do with China if they only had the purest intentions.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/16/asia/us-china-trump-relations-intl-hnk/index.html


Trump signed an EXECUTIVE ORDER. that made it so that Hong Kong is NO LONGER RECOGNIZED AS AN INDIVIDUAL SOVEREIGNTY, and it part of China. He actually just gutted the US being involved with Hong Kong on a privileged level. Taking away power from Americans to treat Hong Kong with dignity. THIS IS AXACTLY WHAT XI PING AND THE COMMUNIST PARTY WANTS!!!!
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-press-conference-071420/
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Today, I also signed an executive order ending U.S. preferential treatment for Hong Kong. Hong Kong will now be treated the same as mainland China: no special privileges, no special economic treatment, and no export of sensitive technologies.


Why would you enable an act that defends Hong Kong (passed as a law enacted by Congress) only to IMMEDIATELY sign an EXECUTEIVE ORDER to take away all special privilege available to American businesses with Hong Kong???? THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

Just all seems preeettttyyyy fishy you know??

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This post was edited by Crunkt on Jul 31 2020 11:11am
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Jul 31 2020 09:55am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 31 2020 11:39am)
I know it's hard for conservatives to understand, but some of us value democracy


Common sense >

this is autism level 'valuing democracy'
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Jul 31 2020 09:58am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 31 2020 09:55am)
You're going to spend money to go vote via absentee even though you're probably from a state that is like 99% going to vote one way i.e. California and in reality your vote doesn't actually decide anything?

:rofl:


Please don't vote.
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Jul 31 2020 10:00am
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Please don't vote.


Probably won't.

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Jul 31 2020 10:08am
Fuck China
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Jul 31 2020 11:18am
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You can call trump all kinds of names in the USA. Try that with xi in china.


is china worse? undoubtedly. does that mean that trump has NOT put america on a distinctly fascist course? no, it doesn't.
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#17
Jul 31 2020 11:23am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 31 2020 08:35am)
I get that but would you spend hundreds of dollars and at least a day out of your life to travel somewhere as to think your 1 out of millions votes is going to impact something?

Personally i wouldn't but props to anyone that's that dedicated especially about somewhere they don't even live.


Man, what privilege you have. My wife's family lived under Communist rule in Russia for decades. Her 93 year old grandpa would NEVER miss an opportunity to vote. He fucking votes for EVERYTHING.

I feel like Americans take their rights for granted too often. Voting, the press, etc.
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Jul 31 2020 11:44am
Quote (fender @ Jul 31 2020 01:18pm)
is china worse? undoubtedly. does that mean that trump has NOT put america on a distinctly fascist course? no, it doesn't.


Haven't been to the states lately but im not entirely sure i agree with the fascist narrative. I just see sensationalistic headlines that exaggerate what is going on. How fascist is it really?
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Jul 31 2020 11:45am
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Man, what privilege you have. My wife's family lived under Communist rule in Russia for decades. Her 93 year old grandpa would NEVER miss an opportunity to vote. He fucking votes for EVERYTHING.

I feel like Americans take their rights for granted too often. Voting, the press, etc.


So has my grandmother and she lived here for 30 years and didn't vote a single time. Nor have my parents, not most of my relatives.

Some of us have the common sense to understand the current electoral system and how entirely depending on where you live your voice doesn't matter and hasn't mattered in quite awhile.

I live in a district that has voted blue for 100 years. I live in a city in which even local offices have always been blue because it's like 50% black.

So i don't really view going and wasting my time as a privilege, i rather play a few games of SC rather than pretend an individual action i take like going voting is going to make any impact.

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Jul 31 2020 12:00pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 31 2020 10:45am)
So has my grandmother and she lived here for 30 years and didn't vote a single time. Nor have my parents, not most of my relatives.

Some of us have the common sense to understand the current electoral system and how entirely depending on where you live your voice doesn't matter and hasn't mattered in quite awhile.

I live in a district that has voted blue for 100 years. I live in a city in which even local offices have always been blue because it's like 50% black.

So i don't really view going and wasting my time as a privilege, i rather play a few games of SC rather than pretend an individual action i take like going voting is going to make any impact.


Have you considered voting absentee instead? I haven't been to a polling location in well over a decade.

Anyway, your attitude is one of the reasons why Americans have abysmal turnout and it's part of a vicious cycle. If EVERYONE voted, things would be quite different.
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