Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 13 2020 04:16pm)
I've moved left on some things, but let's pretend John Kasich got elected. Would people constantly be harping on my shift? It looks that way because America no longer has a legitimate right-wing political party. We have a mostly center-left party and a personality cult of nutjobs and/or racists.
Plus the left-right paradigm is kind of irrelevant on some issues. I'll take Hillary's hawkish multilateralism over Trump's isolationist unilateralism. Neither is a cookie-cutter left-wing or right-wing position.
Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 13 2020 04:14pm)
you perceive inherited inequality between classes. That's simply a statement of fact. Then you have the opinion that those inequalities are inherently a bad thing, that privilege and inheritance should be apologized for and corrected. That's the poisonous flawed morality common among the left. Inequality and social hierarchy are just natural products of the human condition and the only stable structure for society. You tear down the inequalities of one set of classes in a pursuit of a level playing field and all you'll do is watch the field upends in favor of another. As Terry Crews so inelegantly put it, defeating white supremacy to create black supremacy. You're punishing a group and creating unfair and immoral discrimination and prejudice in the name of defeating discrimination and prejudice. The world doesn't have to be ruled by cutthroat social darwinism taken to a randesque extreme, but neither can the world be completely egalitarian while needs, wants and limited resources exist, because the result of every such attempt is always the same. The only sensible path is somewhere in the middle, trying to buffer against falling off either side of that knife's edge. But the left today would be happy to take a death plunge with their overt marxist ideals
The middle road is Democratic-led governance. It's not a choice between Trump vs the author of White Fragility. It's Trump vs Biden. A president who intentionally stokes racial divisions vs. one who will try to unite the country.
This post was edited by IceMage on Jul 13 2020 06:04pm