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Jul 13 2020 04:47pm
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I’d like to see 4-8 years of a Bernie style president just to give it a fuckin shot and see how it goes. His views don’t match my own, and yeah he’s a total fuckin hypocrite rich white guy at this point, but I’d like to see what happens when the country entirely supports the poor and covers the burden of healthcare and education and childcare cost entirely. If it’s a total car crash, we live and learn. We spent trillions on a useless war and the economy didn’t crash, so I don’t have an issue spending trillions on domestic policy and seeing whether it helps or hurts.


Bernie only became rich over the past few years. He was the least wealthy senator and his wife was a social worker. They weren't loaded.

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Bernie only became rich over the past few years. He was the least wealthy senator and his wife was a social worker. They weren't loaded.


sure, and i dont blame him for selling books and doing speeches to get loaded, but it's interesting when he's like "no one needs more than 1 house and a car to get them from point a to b" then goes and does the exact opposite.
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Jul 13 2020 05:12pm
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Dude I literally thought this same thing.

My PaRD 2020 Bingo card is completely empty. I would have never guessed this shit.
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Jul 13 2020 05:19pm
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Icemage is black?

No wonder Santara hates him.
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Jul 13 2020 05:21pm
Quote (AspenSniper @ 13 Jul 2020 16:31)
It’s a hard balance because you could cause an Atlas Shrugged. I work with 15 different Bermuda domiciled companies and with individuals who have their wealth abroad specifically due to fear of an inheritance tax.

A bigger fear of mine is a tax on the “kinda wealthy” like increasing taxes on people making $200-300k a year. 200k a year in DC, San Fran, NYC, etc., is NOT rich. That’ll maybe get a kid or two through college and yourself in a 3 bed 2 bath old house often times. The left not knowing where to draw that line is dangerous to me. Tax the overpaid and family money rich, not the hard working who just kick ass with their MBA/law degree/MD/working 60+ hours a week in a challenging space and get compensated well for doing so.


well stated.
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Jul 13 2020 05:30pm
Problem is the wealthiest already have systems in place to protect and insulate themselves from pretty much any new scheme you can some up with.
I do almost no banking in australia outside of an account i have interest transferred to from Taiwan, i can set up various trusts/hedge funds where ownership is so obscured that i will never lose a cent etc.
The rich built the system and it was built to have enough blind spots that you can pretty much get away with anything.
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Jul 13 2020 05:34pm
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I’d like to see 4-8 years of a Bernie style president just to give it a fuckin shot and see how it goes. His views don’t match my own, and yeah he’s a total fuckin hypocrite rich white guy at this point, but I’d like to see what happens when the country entirely supports the poor and covers the burden of healthcare and education and childcare cost entirely. If it’s a total car crash, we live and learn. We spent trillions on a useless war and the economy didn’t crash, so I don’t have an issue spending trillions on domestic policy and seeing whether it helps or hurts.


Why don't we use ourselves as a test-run. You can financially help me and my domestic policy and we'll see how things go.
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Jul 13 2020 05:38pm
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I’d like to see 4-8 years of a Bernie style president just to give it a fuckin shot and see how it goes. His views don’t match my own, and yeah he’s a total fuckin hypocrite rich white guy at this point, but I’d like to see what happens when the country entirely supports the poor and covers the burden of healthcare and education and childcare cost entirely. If it’s a total car crash, we live and learn. We spent trillions on a useless war and the economy didn’t crash, so I don’t have an issue spending trillions on domestic policy and seeing whether it helps or hurts.


I would love to see that. I would love to see a 4-8 year Andrew Yang presidency even more.
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Jul 13 2020 05:55pm
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I've moved left on some things, but let's pretend John Kasich got elected. Would people constantly be harping on my shift? It looks that way because America no longer has a legitimate right-wing political party. We have a mostly center-left party and a personality cult of nutjobs and/or racists.

Plus the left-right paradigm is kind of irrelevant on some issues. I'll take Hillary's hawkish multilateralism over Trump's isolationist unilateralism. Neither is a cookie-cutter left-wing or right-wing position.

Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 13 2020 04:14pm)
you perceive inherited inequality between classes. That's simply a statement of fact. Then you have the opinion that those inequalities are inherently a bad thing, that privilege and inheritance should be apologized for and corrected. That's the poisonous flawed morality common among the left. Inequality and social hierarchy are just natural products of the human condition and the only stable structure for society. You tear down the inequalities of one set of classes in a pursuit of a level playing field and all you'll do is watch the field upends in favor of another. As Terry Crews so inelegantly put it, defeating white supremacy to create black supremacy. You're punishing a group and creating unfair and immoral discrimination and prejudice in the name of defeating discrimination and prejudice. The world doesn't have to be ruled by cutthroat social darwinism taken to a randesque extreme, but neither can the world be completely egalitarian while needs, wants and limited resources exist, because the result of every such attempt is always the same. The only sensible path is somewhere in the middle, trying to buffer against falling off either side of that knife's edge. But the left today would be happy to take a death plunge with their overt marxist ideals


The middle road is Democratic-led governance. It's not a choice between Trump vs the author of White Fragility. It's Trump vs Biden. A president who intentionally stokes racial divisions vs. one who will try to unite the country.

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