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Jul 12 2020 02:45pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ 12 Jul 2020 21:58)
It’s almost like having a very small population with controlled immigration leads sustainable social safety nets. Color me shocked.


inb4'd you, bigot. germany is a large and diverse nation with decades of immigration, and it has sustainable social safety nets. your 'argument' is invalid.
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Jul 12 2020 02:51pm
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inb4'd you, bigot. germany is a large and diverse nation with decades of immigration, and it has sustainable social safety nets. your 'argument' is invalid.

that’s because the world let your nation off the hook for starting two world wars in a 25 year span. USA paid for your defense against the ussr and gave you favorable rebuilding and trading terms via the Marshall Plan.

and what is the ‘gratitude’ we get for this benevolence? an angry little descendant of joseph goebbels spamming and crying about America all the time.
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Jul 12 2020 02:52pm
I'll be damned, I just spent like two hours this morning watching YouTube videos about homelessness in Seattle and LA.

I just came back from a trip to California, we went to Venice Beach and each time it seems like the homeless problem is so much worse than ever. I'd be interested to see what would happen with a program like that in those areas. It seems like there are a few problems, mainly there isn't enough real estate for that kind of thing and in addition to that it seems like such a desirable place to live that people would make the trip to be homeless there to take advantage exacerbating the first problem of space.

Apparently Los Angeles has funded more shelters in Venice but it just isn't working.


Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 12 2020 12:58pm)
It’s almost like having a very small population with controlled immigration leads sustainable social safety nets. Color me shocked.


This is certainly true. Apparently Seattle spends billions at it is responding to the "homeless problem" they have and there's nothing even closely related to solvency there. The amount of resources it would take to have something like Finland's policy would probably be astronomically high.

In the piece I saw on Seattle's problem they mentioned copying the system Rhode Island uses. Immediately the same thing came to my mind in that Rhode Island probably has the luxury of being significantly smaller than other hot spot areas in the country.
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Jul 12 2020 02:57pm
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inb4'd you, bigot. germany is a large and diverse nation with decades of immigration, and it has sustainable social safety nets. your 'argument' is invalid.


Germany is not diverse in comparison with the United States. 80% of the country is ethnically German, another 10% are white (non-Turk), and minorities make up the rest. The United States has a far greater racial, ethnic, and cultural diversity.
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Jul 12 2020 03:25pm
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So what you're telling me is that if you give people homes, there are fewer people without homes?


In the long-term especially. ;)
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Jul 12 2020 03:26pm
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Germany is not diverse in comparison with the United States. 80% of the country is ethnically German, another 10% are white (non-Turk), and minorities make up the rest. The United States has a far greater racial, ethnic, and cultural diversity.


schrödingers germany: both collapsing because overrun by migrants that merkel invited to destroy the country, and at the same time not diverse enough to demonstrate how ridiculous the old 'minorities are to blame that we can't have nice things' narrative by right wing bigots. top kek.

here's what the brainwashed idiots never think about: their country spends trillions on forever wars, tax cuts for the rich, billions on subsidies for fossil fuel, tanks and riot gear for village cops, and a prison system that locks away its citizens at five to ten times (!) the rate of its peers (while ironically calling itself the 'land of the free', lol) - but somehow it's just the 'ethnic and cultural diversity' (might as well just say it outright, everyone knows what you mean) that's responsible for your shitty social safety net, huh? can you at least spin this bs a bit further and explain HOW those two are connected? i'd love to see you try...
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Jul 12 2020 04:20pm
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We already have this in America. We have a lot of homeless shelters and subsidized (often free) public housing.


Only people who don't work in human services believe this. They will also say ignorant things like there are more resources for homeless women than men.

The only American city who have tried to work on homelessness in good faith is Salt Lake City. They have a housing first policy. It has been struggling lately.

They had reduced homelessness by 91% in their state.


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Germany is not diverse in comparison with the United States. 80% of the country is ethnically German, another 10% are white (non-Turk), and minorities make up the rest. The United States has a far greater racial, ethnic, and cultural diversity.


So? Doubling down on the pure blood thing?


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schrödingers germany: both collapsing because overrun by migrants that merkel invited to destroy the country, and at the same time not diverse enough to demonstrate how ridiculous the old 'minorities are to blame that we can't have nice things' narrative by right wing bigots. top kek.

here's what the brainwashed idiots never think about: their country spends trillions on forever wars, tax cuts for the rich, billions on subsidies for fossil fuel, tanks and riot gear for village cops, and a prison system that locks away its citizens at five to ten times (!) the rate of its peers (while ironically calling itself the 'land of the free', lol) - but somehow it's just the 'ethnic and cultural diversity' (might as well just say it outright, everyone knows what you mean) that's responsible for your shitty social safety net, huh? can you at least spin this bs a bit further and explain HOW those two are connected? i'd love to see you try...


Lol slammed.

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Jul 12 2020 05:21pm
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schrödingers germany: both collapsing because overrun by migrants that merkel invited to destroy the country, and at the same time not diverse enough to demonstrate how ridiculous the old 'minorities are to blame that we can't have nice things' narrative by right wing bigots. top kek.

here's what the brainwashed idiots never think about: their country spends trillions on forever wars, tax cuts for the rich, billions on subsidies for fossil fuel, tanks and riot gear for village cops, and a prison system that locks away its citizens at five to ten times (!) the rate of its peers (while ironically calling itself the 'land of the free', lol) - but somehow it's just the 'ethnic and cultural diversity' (might as well just say it outright, everyone knows what you mean) that's responsible for your shitty social safety net, huh? can you at least spin this bs a bit further and explain HOW those two are connected? i'd love to see you try...


Is it my position that Germany is presently collapsing as a result of being overrun with migrants? You need to stop constructing strawman arguments to knock down and argue in the real world.

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So? Doubling down on the pure blood thing?


Recognizing that there are challenges in operating a multi-ethnic, diverse society does not somehow translate to belief in purity of blood. It's the intellectually responsible position, one that we talk about all the time when discussing historical examples of diverse, multi-ethnic empires (see: Cyrus the Great). It's a sad state of affairs that we can't have a similar discussion today without the pc police devolving into the usual hysterics.
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Jul 12 2020 06:04pm
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Is it my position that Germany is presently collapsing as a result of being overrun with migrants? You need to stop constructing strawman arguments to knock down and argue in the real world.


it's a common right wing sentiment that i assumed you shared (and probably actually did at some point, but whatever). if not, there's no reason for dodging my question regarding a thing you undeniably suggested in this very thread: how exactly are 'ethnic and cultural diversity' (just to use your dogwhistle of choice) and america's broken social safety net connected, how is the former responsible for the latter - especially considering the trillions you spend on forever wars, tax breaks for stock buybacks, fossil fuel subsidies, and a prison industry that makes america the 'land of the incarcerated'? that doesn't make much sense, so please enlighten me if you can.
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Jul 12 2020 06:28pm
fender labels everyone he hates as the same and all like-minded. his ancestor joseph and his buddy adolf had this mindset
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