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Quote (Skinned @ Jul 12 2020 12:33am)
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Interestingly enough Body Integrity Identity Disorder is not a formally recognized disorder, and it's highly contentious. Neither the DSM-V nor the ICD-11 include Body Integrity Identity Disorder as a recognized disorder, but merely at-most the ICD-11 does include "Body Integrity Dysphoria". The DSM jury is still out on this one.

Differential diagnosis for BID is extremely hard too, since the expression or desire to become disabled, blinded, or receive an amputation can be so many different things:

- Body Integrity Dysphoria.
- Munchausen Syndrome.
- Somatoparaphrenia as a result of brain damage.
- Mental status exam to ensure that a desire to amputate a limb isn't the result of paranoid delusions.
- Some correlations between BID and paraphilias.
- Correlations with personality disorders are very weak with this population, so I'd disagree with Skinned's take that this reeks of BPD.

The challenging part for all of this is that there have historically been people who have elected to receive an amputation under these circumstances, and for a significant majority % of these people, receiving an amputation alleviates their distress and greatly improves their quality of life. Now, does that mean that someone's therapist should administer drain cleaner to blind someone? Absolutely not, and that would get a therapist's license revoked by any regulatory board.

The future of research here is leaning towards viewing BID as a neurological condition rather than psychological. Of the limited research that has been done on the topic, a good amount of brain damage has been observed in this population and there are also issues with neural mapping that can lead people to feel, genuinely, that a limb they posses is not actually their own.

It's kind of fascinating stuff, really.

What's the distinction?
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Jul 12 2020 09:15am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 11 2020 04:17pm)
Definitely a mental illness lol


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Jul 12 2020 09:49am
Wtf lol
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Quote (duffman316 @ Jul 11 2020 03:46pm)
It looks like theres a new class of identity, that of transabled people. People who are biologically perfectly healthy yet they feel some of their limbs don't belong and go to great lengths to make themselves more comfortable in their body. I'd like to remind everyone that this is not a mental illness in anyway shape or form and these people are just as disabled as other's with disabilities that are not self inflicted. I look forward to seeing a person with a perfectly good set of eyes parking in a handicapped spot and rolling out a walking stick in a progressive society that accepts them as being blind because they identify as such.


https://life.gomcgill.com/people-are-becoming-disabled-by-choice-and-they-are-called-transabled
'Transabled' people are the ones who choose to be disabled. Similar to transgender people, the 'transabled' feel one or more limbs or functions of one's body do not belong to one's self. And some even go to such lengths that involve illegal surgeries to remove the undesired body part. Professor Alexandre Baril, a feminist, gender, and sexuality studies professor and Fellow, defines transability as "the desire or the need for a person identified as able-bodied by other people to transform his or her body to obtain a physical impairment."

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Jewel Shuping, a 30-year-old, resident of North Carolina has BIID (Body Integrity Identity Disorder) and identifies herself as a transabled person.Otherwise healthy, Shuping decided to get rid of her eyesight as her wish to become a blind person took over her mind. In 2006 to fulfill this wish, a sympathetic psychologist poured drain cleaner into her eyes reported Daily Mail. Recalling how this idea of becoming blind infested her mind as a child she said, "My mother would find me walking in the halls at night when I was three or four years old. By the time I was six, I remember that thinking about being blind made me feel comfortable."


That is some interesting mental gymnastics
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Jul 12 2020 02:57pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Jul 12 2020 07:23am)
What's the distinction?


How you'd go about conceptualizing, diagnosing, and treating BID would be very different if it's neurological v. psychological.

If it's neurological, then you're looking at this as more of a physical illness with psychological consequences v. a mental illness with psychological consequences. If there's a way to heal the area of the brain that's been damaged, or a way to correct the miscommunication in neural mapping, then you'd likely be able to treat BID without the need of therapy or amputation. People would likely be sent to neurologists as opposed to clinical psychologists.
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