I, for one, happen to think that the issues being protested are more important than the virus. Covid is a 2-year problem, systematic oppression is a forever problem.

That being said, I also think that all these peaceful protests are stupid because they won't do any good for change (but they still have the downside of spreading the virus). So there's really no upside to them.

But, in theory, if someone had developed an actual plan to affect real change that also had the downside of spreading the virus, I would be in support of that plan.

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Not everyone is lucky

We lost a million jobs in a province of 14 million because of health officials advising government agencies to shut everything down.

Yeah some of us brought it up in other threads.

Totally agree, just shows the duplicity and hypocrisy of much of the mainstream media and government officials who told us the sky is falling. Going to see your parents or moms taking kids to the park is a no no, but at the flip of a switch within a few days the same 'journalists' are writing articles of how stunning and brave the protesters are, without even the slightest hint of it's impact on virus spread. Just baffling how millions of people gathering across the US and western Europe, many not wearing masks is somehow not significant for corona spread.

there are two outcomes, neither are good for society but one is slightly better:

1: there is no resurgence, everyone is pissed about the lies and deceit but we all go back to work and normal
2: there is a huge resurgence in areas that were already ultra-vulnerable (urban/cities); the people most negatively affected by covid-19 get even more affected and we have split societies. areas open because they acted right and the protest-filled areas shutdown for months on end

And that is terrible. Hopefully a united front happens when it comes time to rebuild. New Zealand, albeit an island, will likely thrive in the months to come because of a quick response to the situation. I think we can all agree that in the future it should never be allowed to get to this point ever again.

What should have been two weeks or so is going to likely take over a year to completely eradicate, if it can even get to that point. HIV/AIDS was among the same way.

I'm hoping and think the former will happen. If it turns out to be that then honestly politicians & public officials need be held accountable. You can't fuck the economy, have 25 million people become unemployed and shaft the US taxpayer with 6 trillion and say "oh our bad, we might have slightly overreacted". People like Chumer and so many of the democrats that were hypercritical and were pushing for draconian complete shutdowns need to be held accountable if 1 happens.

l agree with the sentiment 100%, if its 1: it is can arguably be called a scam of epic proportions. but no they won’t be held accountable because:

people who dont care will find/go back to work
people who do care will find/go back to work and be too busy to do something against that thug Schumer and co

people who do care and who can’t find work will blame Trump

Aside from the jobs, there are other very negative effects. I can guarantee hundreds of thousands of savers pulled money out of stocks either on the way down or at the bottom. They shifted towards cash or a more conservative strategy and probably missed at least a certain portion of the move up. So in essence, they got fleeced.

What about the businesses that lost 30, 50, 70% of their revenue? What about the fact that when you increase the money supply, that itself is inflationary and pretty much anyone that has savings will see their wealth eroded because of the overreaction? What about the subsequent generations that will somehow have to finance another x trillions through higher taxes?

People should care, but i agree most are either too stupid or just too busy with getting along in life to understand the repercussions.

That's false. The WHO is funded by China. China is trying to kill Americans.

yes, downturns affect the downtrodden most. meanwhile our investment thread is filled some with immigrants and minorities who worked their way up and that northern cheese-eating hick snipa laughing our way to the bank lmao!!! (Inb4 reported).

the haves get more opportunity when there is a downturn, this is a tale as old as time. fortunately for some of us the fault of this downturn lies 100% at the feet of the Chinese govt and liberal (D) American politicians. Of course some will blame the President but he didn’t do this.

i hate that small businesses get screwed the most. this has a personal appeal to me; i did my best to support the local shops i frequent in my city even though they were shut down. I made quite a good handful of friends at these places, most of them employees or owners of said shops. buying gift cards and ordering takeout as much as possible. still this doesn’t come close to replacing their losses. and no one, other than maybe the SBA, even gives a damn about them.

minorities get double-whammied if there is a covid-19 surge. all the rich white lefty liberal privileged protesting kiddies will get mommy and daddy to fund their treatments

This post was edited by excellence on Jun 9 2020 07:23pm