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Jun 5 2020 10:41pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 5 2020 09:37pm)
I might be being overly logical in this thinking but to me a country of 300,000,000 will ALWAYS have examples of just about anything you can imagine, you have serial killers, mass shooters, arsonist fire fighters and overly violent police.
But am i wrong in thinking that the number of occurrences is not actually that high in relation to the population size?
I mean a cop is EIGHTEEN times more likely to be killed by a black man than to actually kill one.


And because you're not from this country you don't understand what's really being talked about in this discourse, for if you did you wouldn't be prone to bringing up statistics that are red herrings.

It is not merely the % of black people dying by police that is endemic of systemic racism, but the aftermath of those killings. The police kill an incredible amount of black people without recourse or consequences, especially criminal forms. The same is not said about anyone who kills a police officer.
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Jun 5 2020 10:42pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 5 2020 09:37pm)
I might be being overly logical in this thinking but to me a country of 300,000,000 will ALWAYS have examples of just about anything you can imagine, you have serial killers, mass shooters, arsonist fire fighters and overly violent police.
But am i wrong in thinking that the number of occurrences is not actually that high in relation to the population size?
I mean a cop is EIGHTEEN times more likely to be killed by a black man than to actually kill one.


I wouldn't call it an overly horrific death, i saw a guy get pulled into a combine harvester when i was 12, that was horrific.
I am not saying he deserved to die or that the officers actions were anything but murder, what i am saying is that this man was not an angel, he was a violent scumbag who pulled a gun whenever he needed cash.

You think the PREGNANT BLACK WOMAN he held a gun to thinks he is some martyr who deserves all this pity?


And? Literally none of what you're talking about matters. There is no reason George Floyd should have been held to the ground in back and neck holds for nearly 9 minutes, some of which persisted into time that he was unconscious and unresponsive, and ultimately killed.

You can seriously fuck off with your shitty whataboutism.

This post was edited by Handcuffs on Jun 5 2020 10:43pm
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Jun 5 2020 10:46pm
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The fact that some many people, whether it be Candace Owens or posters here in PaRD, think that a criminal record should somehow invalidate the horrific death of another person at the hands of police is simultaneously mind-boggling and unsurprising.


Owens does not say that it does.
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Jun 5 2020 10:48pm
Candice is absolutely right. The media and masses treating him like some hero and angel is disgusting.

Neither she nor anyone here has said that makes killing him ok.
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Jun 5 2020 10:48pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Jun 6 2020 02:41pm)
And because you're not from this country you don't understand what's really being talked about in this discourse, for if you did you wouldn't be prone to bringing up statistics that are red herrings.

It is not merely the % of black people dying by police that is endemic of systemic racism, but the aftermath of those killings. The police kill an incredible amount of black people without recourse or consequences, especially criminal forms. The same is not said about anyone who kills a police officer.


Philandra castile is a case where this happened and the officer walked, i think rioting would have been more justifiable in that case.
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And? Literally none of what you're talking about matters. There is no reason George Floyd should have been held to the ground in back and neck holds for nearly 9 minutes, some of which persisted into time that he was unconscious and unresponsive, and ultimately killed.

You can seriously fuck off with your shitty whataboutism.


I said no such thing.
And i have stated time and time again all cops involved belong in prison.
I also do not shed any tears over a violent piece of shit who lived by the gun and died high on drugs in a gutter after committing yet another crime.

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Jun 5 2020 10:48pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Jun 5 2020 09:46pm)
Owens does not say that it does.


You're correct. The point about other people in PaRD still remains.
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Jun 5 2020 10:50pm
Im actually bothering to watch this video and she's slaying in it
I almost never watch these videos but grinding new ladder is tedious
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Jun 5 2020 10:51pm
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Im actually bothering to watch this video and she's slaying in it
I almost never watch these videos but grinding new ladder is tedious


I only ever heard what an uncle tom she is, she seems more like MLK to me, a champion for the black community.
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Jun 5 2020 10:52pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Jun 5 2020 11:41pm)
And because you're not from this country you don't understand what's really being talked about in this discourse, for if you did you wouldn't be prone to bringing up statistics that are red herrings.

It is not merely the % of black people dying by police that is endemic of systemic racism, but the aftermath of those killings. The police kill an incredible amount of black people without recourse or consequences, especially criminal forms. The same is not said about anyone who kills a police officer.


Except the police kill about 200 black people (out of 700 people total) a year. Of those, like 10% were unarmed (which also included the use of clib-style weapons). Soo, that's like, 20 people.

So they really are not out there just killing black people.

Esp considering they have about 400,000,000 interactions with the public a year. (Police stops, dispatch calls, etc.)

Studies have also said white police officers are more likely to kill a white person versus a black person as well. But I'm not going to comment a ton of them, I've seen them referenced but never personally looked at them.

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Jun 5 2020 10:54pm
'Conservarives' blacks people is not something common.
I don't think the reasoning is valid, this Floyd was out of drugs, tried cure after, and he still got killed in unacceptable way. I also don't know exactly how he pointed his gun, or if he was really aware she was pregnant.

IMO this is a poor flip over because someone is scared.
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