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May 15 2020 02:55pm
Quote (Reyecky @ May 15 2020 03:22pm)
That is the courts fault. They should never peoceed without all facts or evidence or any given pieces of the puzzle. It sounds like the court rushed something and failed hard. Imo that doesnt mean he should have to go through all those emotions all over again, keep in mind all this takes a huge emotional toll on their family as well.... Not everyone can take a life and just live normal... If they have a retrial and hes found innocent (agai , as he should be) then he should have some level of compensation for having to stand two trials and beimg put through all of that due to the courts short commings. I'm not certain how things work legally in Canada but in most countries he would be calable of sueing the court for similar situations.


In the United States at least, he would absolutely not be able to sue.

It's not possible to get everything 100% right 100% of the time. Best we can do is redo when there's a procedural problem, and it seems there was one here.
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May 15 2020 03:08pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ May 15 2020 04:55pm)
In the United States at least, he would absolutely not be able to sue.

It's not possible to get everything 100% right 100% of the time. Best we can do is redo when there's a procedural problem, and it seems there was one here.


With the exception of Florida of course.
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May 15 2020 03:18pm
Quote (hunter_1 @ 15 May 2020 17:53)
Try to steal my car
You’ll get shot
And I won’t be sorry
That you are 6ft below w family morning the loss of you

He rolled the dice and he lost

Fuckin lost hard


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May 15 2020 04:02pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ May 15 2020 05:18pm)
Everyone needs to sleep at some point...


Not 6 Big ass dogs.
Lol
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May 18 2020 10:39pm
1) I'm glad the US doesn't have something called 'The Crown' weighing in on our judicial system, even if it's insignificant tradition.

2) I'm also glad that the US has the 5th Amendment and 14th Amendment and double jeopardy laws.

I think the jury had the ability to properly consider Khilil's behavior before the shooting in this first trial.
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May 18 2020 10:52pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ May 15 2020 11:55am)
A trial being redone because the jury did not receive adequate instruction is pretty typical. Why is this controversial?


It's controversial because it highlights that Canada lacks adequate protections against double jeopardy. Allowing the prosecution to redo a trial because the judge omitted instructions that "may" have impacted the verdict is a pretty serious miscarriage of justice.

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May 18 2020 11:58pm
Quote (bogie160 @ May 18 2020 11:52pm)
It's controversial because it highlights that Canada lacks adequate protections against double jeopardy. Allowing the prosecution to redo a trial because the judge omitted instructions that "may" have impacted the verdict is a pretty serious miscarriage of justice.


It represents the philosophical divergence in anglo vs american law and why a (real) constitution shouldn't be underrated
British/canadian/etc law assumes the interests of the government outweigh any personal rights, that safeguards are only allowances not guarantees. In Britain if you're acquitted at trial, the crown prosecutors can just say they have 'new and compelling evidence' to serve 'a public interest' by retrying a prosecution as many times as they want. And they codified it in a 2003 law which then applied ex post facto to allow reprosecutions of crimes before it was passed, because seriously, they have nothing even resembling the American 5th amendment or Article 1. The UK/CA/etc system assumes the crown's good faith and that the people only need to be protected by their government, not from their government. Why would you need a double jeopardy or ex post facto prohibition if all the hypotheticals about prosecutorial overreach depend on the malicious conduct of an infallible bureaucracy? Nobody has ever been persecuted by British law, I mean that's clearly evidenced by the lack of revolts against any abuses under British law by its subjects.
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May 19 2020 04:22am
Quote (Hecht55 @ May 15 2020 05:36pm)
Bit extreme to say somebody deserves loss of life for theft....


Yes, just a bit....
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May 19 2020 04:29am
Quote (Reyecky @ 16 May 2020 00:02)
Not 6 Big ass dogs.
Lol


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