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May 12 2020 07:55am
heinrich gets hot-and-bothered by the fantash of joining a secret police to rat out people in the land he so desperately desires to move to

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May 12 2020 09:18am
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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/496903-senate-revives-surveillance-brawl
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mitch-mcconnell-moves-to-expand-bill-barrs-surveillance-powers

so moscow mitch and his crew are looking to expand surveillance powers of the PATRIOT act even further, continuing to encroach on america's precious freedoms.

i'd argue that if you're a true freedom loving citizen, willing to risk your own life defying the evil government over measures to contain a global pandemic, this egregious and continuing violation of your rights warrants a reaction that is at least ten times as strong.
so surely we will see millions of vanilla ISIS' finest flock to the capitol, triumphantly brandishing their walmart rifles in order to intimidate senators into restoring FREEDOMâ„¢. after all, that's what guns are for: to reign in tyrannical government that keeps violating your rights - not to kill black dudes running through your neighbourhood, right?

https://i.imgur.com/dUCiKek.png


Ah, countries finally begin to copy Stasi practices. Will take some time before they catch up with Stasi morons. Nothing to worry about.

*moves on*
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May 12 2020 09:21am
Quote (excellence @ May 12 2020 03:55pm)
heinrich gets hot-and-bothered by the fantash of joining a secret police to rat out people in the land he so desperately desires to move to

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Great post my friend!

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May 12 2020 10:21am
Quote (Goomshill @ 12 May 2020 06:37)
The Patriot Act reauthorization vote is facing three amendments to make it more restrictive and transparent, the complete opposite of the ridiculous daily beast propaganda post you linked.
1. Rand Paul's amendment says that FISA warrants can't be used on American citizens
2. The Lee-Leahy amendment says that any time surveillance is conducted on a domestic religious or political institute or candidate, an attorney gets to challenge it
3. The Daines-Wyden amendment prevents law enforcement from obtaining internet browsing and search data history without a warrant.

McConnell proposed an amendment to renew the Patriot Act without these additional safeguards, but with a watered down version of each one that largely removes the proposed safeguard. The watered down version of the Daine-Wyden amendment would continue to allow warrantless URL and search history term collection without content, a pretty meaningless distinction. The watered down attorney one only allows an amicus for federal officials being the target but not religions.
None of these proposals expands the Patriot Act. They're all restrictions on it of varying degrees.

Do you ever actually read your links and realize what kind of propaganda is being shoveled onto your plate? The Daily Beast article is trying to claim that the McConnell amendment would 'give Barr the ability to see your search histories!', except that under the current Patriot Act Barr already has the power to do that and see page content. They conveniently forgot to mention that Section 215 is already being interpreted that way, hell, they basically say they can spy on anything and everything right now with no restrictions at all. How does it "expand" a law to take a vague term that's already being interpreted to its fullest extent and formalize it with an interpretation that gives it most of those powers but curtails a select few?


I like those amendments, and I would take their watered down versions over nothing, but the Patriot Act really should be repealed all together.

I thought that Americans would never really care about the Patriot Act or other invasions of personal privacy in the name of national security, but I have observed a growing movement against such legislation and policies in recent years. A roll-back of the Patriot Act seems to be an annual conversation now that Congress is forced to half-heartedly address.

I was really proud of Roberts for defending Americans' 4th Amendment rights in Carpenter v. United States. Alito, Gorsuch, Thomas, and Kennedy hate freedom!
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May 12 2020 10:33am
Quote (fender @ May 12 2020 08:27am)
awesome. i expect to see a whole bunch of gun touting principled libertarians in d.c., alongside all the freedom loving science deniers, who will certainly realise that the patriot act is a significantly worse restriction of their rights and freedoms than wearing a face mask until the deadly virus, that we don't yet have a vaccine for, is under control, correct?

amash makes another valid point, commenting on how unpopular the patriot act really is, further demonstrating that public opinion has virtually no impact on american politics. so where are all those red blooded real americans, up in arms about this grave injustice? we all know what has to be done with tyrannical government, so where are the "LIBERATE AMERICA" tweets? why does faux news not sick y'all quaeda on bitch mcconnell and his stooges?


Red blooded Americans:

https://twitter.com/redfishstream/status/1259803413359067138

More red blooded Americans: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/anti-lockdown-protesters-carry-weapons-north-carolina-sandwich-shop-n1204081

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May 12 2020 10:41am
Quote (Goomshill @ May 12 2020 09:07am)
pretty much, except the part where its still ongoing and there's a chance for the amendments, but most likely scenario is McConnell just plows through with status quo renewal and the fig leaf amendments
kinda of a distinction between saying "turtle shot them" and "turtle is about to shoot them"


I love we agree he is a turtle.
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May 12 2020 10:43am
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Would love to see the brown skinned americans try this.

What a stunning display of white privilege lol.
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May 12 2020 11:15am
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Would love to see the brown skinned americans try this.

What a stunning display of white privilege lol.


You clearly didn't look at the first link.
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May 12 2020 11:18am
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You clearly didn't look at the first link.


Oh damn.

But when Black Panthers do it isn't it terrorism?

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May 12 2020 11:22am
Quote (Skinned @ May 12 2020 01:18pm)
Oh damn.

But when Black Panthers do it isn't it terrorism?


Of course not. It's only wrong if you're white.
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