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May 10 2020 09:02am
Quote (ofthevoid @ May 9 2020 07:38pm)
This looks like the age old pissing match between tribe autonomy and state powers. Maybe i'm wrong but maybe the reservation is at some key crossroads and they are essentially shutting down travel through their lands thereby interfering with the state?


Not their problem.


Quote (Kayeto @ May 9 2020 09:25pm)
running a state highway through a reservation seems like a match made in hell. I can only imagine that disputes must pop up regularly, since we are talking about two groups who claim jurisdiction and are naturally at odd with each other.



They must have had some agreement in place about what the rules for these highways were going to be right?


Uh oh, it is their problem.

I stand corrected.

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May 10 2020 09:27am
Quote (ofthevoid @ 10 May 2020 16:37)
We have tribal lands not far from where i live. Some pretty big intrastate highways run through their lands. Because they are tax exempt they make a killing from travelers buying gas & tobacco products that aren't taxed, & plenty of other things. Difference between name brand smokes and reservation smokes is like 5 bucks per pack due to taxes so imagine the amount of locals going there for cigarettes. It's actually a massive life blood for that native community and honestly i'm not sure how they would fare without all of that revenue coming their way because of that strategic location.

I don't know the details of this case but imo they should work with the government. Seems really entitled to want commerce to run through your neck of the woods when times are good but then try to meddle with that faucet when something like this happens. Like if the government decided to say fuck you and rebuild highways around them they would be infinitely more fucked than if a few people got Covid.


On the flip side, if there was a covid outbreak in their reservation, where they presumably have little to no healthcare infrastructure, would the state government do everything necessary to take care of them and provide them with the necessary care and treatment? The answer should be an unequivocal 'yes', but honestly, I'm not so sure about that.

At the end of the day, the tribe and the state government should just work together. Finding a solution for this problem cant be thaaat diffiult, ffs.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 10 2020 09:27am
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May 10 2020 09:38am
Dems "We could probably spin a narrative saying Trump attempts genocide of Sioux tribe! We can have another Trump investigation!"

Reps "Okay assholes. Show us once again how you fail at politics and excel at making wild allegations and throwing tantrums"



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May 10 2020 09:48am
Quote (Santara @ May 9 2020 11:44pm)
It clearly doesn't please the Crown that people exercise their right to travel.

Side note: buddy called me from a bar in Fargo, ND. He went there (250 miles) because that's the nearest bar that's open.


Our king is refusing to wear a mask, is exposing himself wrecklessly, and has encouraged his subjects to drink Lysol and do whatever they want.
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Our king is refusing to wear a mask, is exposing himself wrecklessly, and has encouraged his subjects to drink Lysol and do whatever they want.


True, true, false, false.
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Quote (Santara @ May 10 2020 09:26pm)
True, true, false, false.


if it was ron 'coronavirus hoax' paul it would be:

true, true, false, true
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Quote (dro94 @ May 10 2020 03:48am)
He's probably libertarian


Nope. Republican to the core.
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Quote (Surfpunk @ May 10 2020 06:54pm)
Nope. Republican to the core.


His Facebook wall tonight:

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Hello All!

A small group of us (I am not naming names) just got back from a road trip to Fargo in the FREE STATE of North Dakota. We decided to go on a whim, and I left work at noon on Friday so we could make happy hour at Cowboy Jacks in Fargo!

Why did we go to Fargo? Because the Bars are open there!

Friday we made it to "Cowboy Jacks Fargo" in time for happy hour. This was the first bar we had been to in MONTHS! It was a smaller two level bar right next to the tracks. Inside all the workers were wearing masks, but with few exceptions nobody else was. Everything else seemed normal except that many of the bar stools at the front bar were removed so that you could not sit right next to others. One of the bartenders looked foolish with his red flannel mask and shitty attitude. Other than that, it was GREAT! I had a steak dinner at the bar. Awesome. Its amazing how much I missed that! Half full bar

From there we hit up "Rooters Bar" for a beer. At this bar, they would not let you sit at the actual bars, you had to sit at a table. None of the wait staff were wearing masks and they were more friendly. Small crowd

Next was the "No Bull Steakhouse" we had couple fancy (and expensive} smoked whiskey drinks here and drank them outside in a patio made out of shipping containers. At this bar you could not sit at the bar, you had to sit at a table. Some of the staff had masks but not all. half full.

Next was the "OB Sports Bar" across the street. Here they checked us against a list to make sure we were not 86ed. At this bar most of the bar stools were removed. Those that were there were placed over taped "X"es on the ground. We got yelled at for moving the stools off the "X"es. Nobody had masks on. We had one beer and then went to the attached "Original Broadway Bar". We had to exit the bar and walk around the block instead of using the glass door between them for some Chinese Virus related reason. small crowd.

The "Original Broadway Bar" was a pretty cool place. It was owned by the same company as the "OB Sports Bar" and they checked us against an 86ed list before allowing entry. The bar was decorated with Hollywood art from the black and white era. There were no masks anywhere to be seen. Black "X"es under the bar stools. We had a quick beer and left. very small crowd

The last stop was the best stop. The bar was called simply..."sports bar". This bar was filled! Lots of people! The only special Chinese Virus rule was you couldnt order or sit at the bar. They had chairs lying sideways on top of the bar like a barricade. This was by far my favorite bar. The staff was awesome and talkative no masks to be seen. I asked the owner why his bar was the only one packed and he replied. "Its because we treat everyone normal and thats what people want". FULL BAR !

Saturday started early with a REAL steak and eggs breakfast at a truck stop followed by a trip to Harley Davidson of Fargo to get a "Fargo Souvenir". Everything at both places was normal. Some wear masks at the register, some dont. We drove around town looking at what was open and what was not. In the FREE STATE OF NORTH DAKOTA a business can choose if they want to be open or closed. There seemed to be a pattern where the national chains were closed but local stuff was open. This was not always true though as seen at Cowboys and Buffalo Wild Wings.

For lunch we went to Buffalo Wild Wings. All of the staff had masks. Everything else was normal till I realized all the sports on their 100 TVs were old games. Weird. It must suck to be ESPN right about now. Half full bar

From there we went to the Fargo Air Museum and I nerded out on the airplanes for a bit. The place was almost empty. Some staff had masks and looked bored.

Then the bar hopping commenced once again.

We started at Cowboys, then the "Empire Bar". The Empire was a dive, and there were no Chinese Virus precautions at all. All the stools were at the bar and people were packed in there. I really liked the U shaped booths.

Next was "Dempsey's Public House" which as a damn cool Irish Pub. If not for needing to get some dinner we would have stayed here for more than one. No staff had masks but the chairs around the bar were over "X"es again and we got yelled at for trying to move them. Even though we were together we could not sit as a group.....But we could sit together at a table.....Duh. Half full

From there it was on to dinner at the "No Bull Steak House" with the fancy smoked BBQ and drinks. full bar

We ended the night at our favorite "Sports Bar" then back to the hotel. FULL BAR! FUN!

Fargo is full of bars! Seems like there was a small bar on every corner. We walked everywhere. Fargo felt like Duluth in size and appearance excepting that it was flat as hell and missing the giant puddle with all the iron ore ships.
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Quote (Santara @ May 10 2020 09:31pm)
His Facebook wall tonight:


Lol gina virus.
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May 11 2020 11:04am
i go by the general rule that if a tribe and white face govt are in a dispute it's the white face's fault. if you follow that line you'll be right 99.99% of the time, especially if there isn't a casino involved in whatever dispute it is.
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