the short answer is that its a test. if youre interested, i can give the full answer about why we're tested, etc.



according to most religions, yes, if you are not a practitioner of it you are doomed to hell. live deep in the amazon and never heard about it? too bad, its hell for you.

judaism, however, has what are known as the 7 noahide laws, basic laws such as dont murder, steal, etc, that people would/could come up with on their own even if they never heard of judaism. if youre not jewish and follow those 7 laws, you can can still earn "heaven", whatever that may be...




indeed, christianity and islam are mutually exclusive. either jesus was the messiah/son of God, or just a prophet. personally, i find the muslim belief in jesus as a prophet to be problematic and self-contradictory, but its not a concrete disproof of islam. however, what islam and christianity both agree on is that judaism at least WAS correct. just that they have surplanted it. being that pretty much everyone agrees that judaism was correct at least at some point, that to me points to it still being correct, especially once you learn about judaism from the jews, and not from the christian/muslim misconceptions of it.

Would you like a rational interpretation for our existence?
Read Kardec

Interpretation from what into what?

Where we came from, what we exist for and where we will go after the death of the physical body.

Spiritism "killed death"

Meiosis is where I came from. I exist to ultimately spread my genetics, and my mind or what we call the soul is emergent from the physical process of our body as evidenced by the soul becoming profoundly disturbed or nullified by things like delirium and dementia.

Eventually i will be worm food. If there is a god he is the god of worms, because he has pined so meticulously over their diet.

God is dead. What that means translated is Essentialism will never be a viable philosophical worldview again.

This post was edited by Skinned on May 2 2020 08:30am

I respect your knowledge and point of view.
If the person is materialistic, the dialogue is meaningless.
If the person is a spiritualist, regardless of religion, etc ... we can move forward.

My friend, only more intimate with your feelings, have you never felt an existential emptiness?

Unfortunately

Yep. I've felt a lot and I've been a lot of things.

This post was edited by Skinned on May 2 2020 09:35pm

I would begin with the reasons for theism and move on from there.

1 The cosmological argument that everything that has a beginning has a cause. The universe had a beginning, therefor a prior cause. A cause that is outside spacetime, immaterial, enormously powerful to cause a universe and is intelligent. So God.
2 Fine-tuning: Everything in the universe is razer-sharp precise to allow the occurrence of life and consciousness. It's not self-evident that the universe with all its law are the way they are. It could be expanding at a much faster rate having different rules of gravity - ripping the universe apart. Yet there is balance, so it's quite the miracle that anything at all exists yet alone humans. The explanation? God as the watchmaker.
3 The moral argument. There are objective moral truths. The nazi regime and the killing of millions is evil. Pedophilia is evil. If you don't belive in moral truths, you are basically saying that these aren't actually evil, we just subjectively made it so. This seems insane, but to avoid the possibility of God people reaches out to the far side.
4 The ontological argument + theological + many more. You can read up on those, if you seek the truth.

There are different analogies to make the picture clearer to the mind. Imagine reality and the universe as a super computer. This super-computer somehow starts to write a code, super advanced compared to nowadays attempt to make AI and MMO fantasy games. They are filled with bugs and will only get you so far. This computer however is writing the code for life. The first cell is a power-house, a whole factory that is able to replicate and transfer its own information. A mind blowing code! Not to think of all the conditions the computer had to calculate for the cell to thrive. And with human consciousness this computer is just an absolute mystery. How on earth is that possible? Well, because of course there's a coder to code the machine. The grand coder, master of them all, you guessed it, God.

I would count biology as another miracle for the reasons of a Creator.

Next you could read up on the historical evidence for Jesus and the resurrection. The whole debate seems to be whether the Deciples and 500 eye witnesses either saw Jesus after his death or they all hallucinated. In today's world, a few eye witnesses is able to bring a court to justice. They history of Jesus is the best historical description we have, with thousands of different letters and gospels. I can name "cold case Christianity" if you would like to hear a homicide detective making a case for the good reasons why it's detestable and reliable.

The final thing is the personal relationship you can have with Jesus. He lives and has tremendous amounts of love for you, that he went to die a painfully death for yours and everyone's sake. You don't have to be a good person, Jesus told a death sentenced thief that he would enter into heaven because of his faith. Faith is all, but only a few will ever have it. Faith and not the works of Abraham brings justification. God justifies every sinner because of Jesus' death on the cross, as He said "it is finished".

It's that easy, and that hard at the same time. We're all biased, so I would suggest that you perhaps find some debates on YouTube with the best debaters for both sides, listen carefully and seek the truth no matter the cost. Be careful though, many will mock and deny the truth to avoid a painful conscience of their prideful inner-persons. People reject God so they can be the masters of their own, blindfully leaving them in the cold, a meaningless and hopeless place.

This post was edited by LazyDazy on May 3 2020 02:02am

My friend, regardless of any belief or religion, we all suffer the same emotions on the planet while we are experiencing the bodily experience.
summing up:
We are heirs of ourselves!
let us move towards our moral and intellectual improvement.
Fraternal hugs from your friend here