Quote (Santara @ Apr 13 2020 09:46am)
LMAO, neither of these is true, and people are justified in reviling FDR. Coolidge did do better, he didn't "rule" the US, and had nothing to do with the onset of the Great Depression.
Liberals make their own messes just fine, to be talking about cleaning up other people's messes. Like how liberals pretend that the Great Recession was borne of conservative policies, and that Obama came along and cleaned it up. Neither of these happened.
GLBA 1990 happened bro, removed Glass Steagall, and the thing that GS was designed to prevent happened.
I don't know what you have against causation.
Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 13 2020 09:59am)
Non internationalism has been a pretty central tenant making up the backbone of the modern left for quite awhile. Vietnam, Iraq just to name a few very public ones.
Look up the sit ins in the 60s or the anti intervention movements made up of mainly young lefties, or the fact that there was a fair amount of liberals saying we shouldn't go into Iraq.
Isolationist/interventionism can't really be broken down by left or right ideology. It's prevalent on both sides evolving over time.
You are conflating anti imperialism with anti intervention.
/e with less snark. I sound like a douche lol. I'll explain myself.
The war of Vietnam was similar to the war in the Philippines. It was a war to open and preserve markets. If you notice they prioritized preserving infrastructure over American lives during these conflicts.
This was not the same as defending Democracy Europe.
It took Pearl Harbor for the conservatives to get motivated, and they still didn't want to ruin business arrangements with the Germans at this time.
The same dudes are still slandering Jews, international banking, George Soros, lol. Same dudes talk about how the rothschilds are trying to rule America and Europe.
No this isn't the common social conservative who just want their neighborhood to be safe and women on general to not be promiscuous. Edited that sentence be less acerbic. What there are still plenty a dude's that freak out about International banking George Soros and use other code works like that.
This post was edited by Skinned on Apr 13 2020 08:17am