Quote (thesnipa @ 3 Mar 2020 20:54)
this is the problem with general vs primary politics. if its a vote state by state its imperfect, but if the party hand picked a candidate based on who can compete with Trump on an electoral map they'd be rightfully lambasted for acting undemocratically. its a real fucking pickle.
i am curious of your opinion on a state by state basis where u think Biden and Sanders hold an edge as far as the midwest. with some simple reasons. if u have time, nothing longform req'd.
Not directed at me, but I actually wrote about this in some detail, so I'll quote myself in case anyone is interested:
Quote (myself)
When it comes to Bernie vs Biden: Bernie's entire rationale for beating Trump is predicated on huge turnout of progressive, young and/or latino voters. Until now, this turnout hasnt really materialized. Iowa and Nevada had mediocre turnout, and the one in New Hampshire was mostly high because of their open primary system where GOP members could cast a vote in the Democratic primaries (note that the GOP didnt have a competitive primary in contrast to 2016). But we'll have to wait and see what happens tomorrow on Super Tuesday.
Furthermore, I would argue that Bernie's coalition is less efficiently positioned in the electoral college. Bernie is really strong in California, Oregon, Washington and the North East, he also might be strong in Nevada and Michigan. But places where he is decidedly weaker than nationally are Florida, North Carolina and Pennsylvania. Biden, on the other hand, is a lot stronger and Florida and Pennsylvania, and he might also have the edge over Trump in Michigan and Wisconsin. What it boils down to, imho, is that Bernie needs to flip Arizona (well possible) and Texas (that's a huge mountain to climb). Biden, on the other hand, will be very competitive in North Carolina and might even make a play for Georgia.
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=80773490&f=119&p=555521879#p555521879Pennsylvania in particular is a state which is demographically dominated by rural and/or working-class whites as well as blacks in and around Philly. So Biden seems like a much better fit for PA than Sanders. And Biden has ties to the state, being from Scranton and all that.
Florida is another pivotal state where I see Biden relatively strong and Sanders relatively weak. FL has a ton of older voters, which are Bernie's weakest demographic, it has a relatively high share of African Americans, and Sanders' praise for Cuba and Castro will not go down well AT ALL with Cuban Americans, which are a powerful voting bloc in the state.
On the other hand, I think that Bernie should be quite strong in Michigan. No idea about Iowa, Minnesota and Wisconsin. Ohio will not be a battleground state, Trump has it in the bag (if he doesnt, he's more than finished anyway).
This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 3 2020 02:21pm