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Feb 21 2020 07:12pm
Quote (IceMage @ Feb 21 2020 08:02pm)
If I was on a forum filled with people arguing that Hillary's private email server was completely cool, I'd argue against that. But instead I'm arguing against people who pretend she wasn't criminally charged because of some conspiracy, instead of the actual facts and relevant law.

That's the asymmetry. The left is more tethered to the truth on issues like this so staking out a reasonable position naturally puts you closer to them, because the right is off in conspiracy and alternative facts land.

Thor's right though... I should stop entertaining this whataboutism.

the whataboutism would bother me if i wasn't dealing with it from your side for the last few years on literally every subject. "what about Trump". i don't know much of Roger's specific case, but from what i do know, i believe he deserves prison time.
what do you feel about law being broken on your side though?
Quote (IceMage @ Dec 11 2019 12:07pm)
I don't have a problem with Comey leaking the memo in order to reveal Trump's corrupt behavior.

Quote (IceMage @ Dec 11 2019 10:43am)
McCabe authorized releasing information to the media regarding the Clinton Foundation case. We didn't know about the Russia investigation during the campaign.

Quote (IceMage @ Dec 20 2019 03:58pm)
Comey is right when he says the FBI has been vindicated.

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/inspector-general-report-hearing-transcript-michael-horowitz-testifies-on-fbis-findings
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Lindsey Graham: (00:01)
The former FBI director James Comey said this week that your report vindicates him. Is that a fair assessment of your report?

M. Horowitz: (00:11)
I think the activities we found here don’t vindicate anybody who touched this.



Quote (IceMage @ Feb 14 2020 12:24pm)
https://i.imgur.com/dzhBbGW.png

I guess facts still matter to some people.

Trump's DOJ, headed by the rabidly political Bill Barr, has declined to prosecute Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Baker, and Page.

Hillary is walking in the woods somewhere. John Brennan and James Clapper are making big bucks wherever they're at.

Paul Manafort is in prison, Mike Flynn and Roger Stone await sentencing.




http://i.imgur.com/PHXVQfe.gif

i find it funny that you still call Barr political when he hasn't prosecuted much on the left. just an extra
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Feb 21 2020 07:21pm
Quote (tagged4nothing @ Feb 21 2020 08:12pm)
the whataboutism would bother me if i wasn't dealing with it from your side for the last few years on literally every subject. "what about Trump". i don't know much of Roger's specific case, but from what i do know, i believe he deserves prison time.
what do you feel about law being broken on your side though?



https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/inspector-general-report-hearing-transcript-michael-horowitz-testifies-on-fbis-findings




i find it funny that you still call Barr political when he hasn't prosecuted much on the left. just an extra


He has intervened on Trump's behalf quite a bit and has undermined other judges sentencing on Trump's request. If you don't know that is political then you don't k ow what the word means.
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Feb 21 2020 07:25pm
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He has intervened on Trump's behalf quite a bit and has undermined other judges sentencing on Trump's request. If you don't know that is political then you don't k ow what the word means.

prove it. not fully(unless you can), what is your source for this

This post was edited by tagged4nothing on Feb 21 2020 07:26pm
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Feb 21 2020 07:27pm
Quote (tagged4nothing @ Feb 21 2020 08:25pm)
prove it


I don't have to present current events to you I'm not your homeroom teacher check your priviledge shitlord.
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Feb 21 2020 07:47pm
Quote (tagged4nothing @ Feb 21 2020 08:12pm)
the whataboutism would bother me if i wasn't dealing with it from your side for the last few years on literally every subject. "what about Trump". i don't know much of Roger's specific case, but from what i do know, i believe he deserves prison time.
what do you feel about law being broken on your side though?

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/inspector-general-report-hearing-transcript-michael-horowitz-testifies-on-fbis-findings

i find it funny that you still call Barr political when he hasn't prosecuted much on the left. just an extra


Framing things as my side vs your side is silly. I'm not part of a cult or a tribe.

It's silly to take my quotes out of context because my explanations are in those threads, but nevertheless:

Yes, Comey's violation of FBI policy was justified in order to expose Trump's corruption. I believe he stated he believed his memos were his property. Either way, exposing corruption by the president is vastly more important.

That quote on McCabe doesn't contradict the facts. At best, he lied about releasing information to the media. That's wrong, but based on the circumstances it's understandable why he wasn't charged. It's not equivalent to Flynn or Papadopoulos lying to investigators in the Russia case.

Comey was right, in the context of the president and his allies claiming it was a deep state coup. It wasn't. The investigation was properly predicated and there was no top-down DOJ/FBI conspiracy to frame Trump.

Your Barr quote just highlights the insanity of the right. Trump surrounded himself with corrupt idiots who committed crimes, and many of them faced consequences. But because we don't see leftists hauled off to court, Barr isn't acting politically? What country do you think you live in?
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Feb 21 2020 08:51pm
Quote (IceMage @ Feb 21 2020 08:47pm)
Framing things as my side vs your side is silly. I'm not part of a cult or a tribe.

It's silly to take my quotes out of context because my explanations are in those threads, but nevertheless:

Yes, Comey's violation of FBI policy was justified in order to expose Trump's corruption. I believe he stated he believed his memos were his property. Either way, exposing corruption by the president is vastly more important.

That quote on McCabe doesn't contradict the facts. At best, he lied about releasing information to the media. That's wrong, but based on the circumstances it's understandable why he wasn't charged. It's not equivalent to Flynn or Papadopoulos lying to investigators in the Russia case.

Comey was right, in the context of the president and his allies claiming it was a deep state coup. It wasn't. The investigation was properly predicated and there was no top-down DOJ/FBI conspiracy to frame Trump.

Your Barr quote just highlights the insanity of the right. Trump surrounded himself with corrupt idiots who committed crimes, and many of them faced consequences. But because we don't see leftists hauled off to court, Barr isn't acting politically? What country do you think you live in?

what corruption did Comey expose exactly?

to bold, McCabe lied to federal investigators for many months about leaking classified information. (he only leaked it because he learned one of his agents from the NYO was going to leak that McCabe was hiding a device with relevant emails from Clinton on a private device, including classified information)

no conspiracy to frame Trump? did you forget about the Steele dossier that Clinton and the DNC paid for? the "dirt" that was fabricated and bought specifically to use against a political opponent at the expense of the FBI and DOJ?
how about Bruce Ohr who continued discussing matters with Steele even after he was released as a confidential human source?
how about Lynch who coincidentally met with Bill Clinton at the Phoenix airport, just before she decided "not" to recuse herself from the case, but also stating that she won't make a decision and just let Comey make the decision?
should i talk about the Fisc abuse in here too?
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Feb 21 2020 09:29pm
Quote (IceMage @ Feb 21 2020 06:49pm)


More like Gay-me Berman Jackson

Stone did nothing wrong and got put in jail for supporting Trump and not saying sorry
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Feb 21 2020 10:55pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ 22 Feb 2020 04:29)
More like Gay-me Berman Jackson

Stone did nothing wrong and got put in jail for supporting Trump and not saying sorry



Watch out the wiki about this proud boy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone

" Roger Jason Stone Jr.[a] (born August 27, 1952) is an American political consultant,[3] lobbyist, author, and convicted felon. "

^_^

" Stone has been variously described as a "self-proclaimed dirty trickster",[10] a "renowned infighter", a "seasoned practitioner of hard-edged politics", a "mendacious windbag", a "veteran Republican strategist" "

:rofl:
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Feb 22 2020 08:11am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Feb 21 2020 10:29pm)
More like Gay-me Berman Jackson

Stone did nothing wrong and got put in jail for supporting Trump and not saying sorry


Endless lie sees nothing wrong about lying to congress
Who'd have thought
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Feb 22 2020 08:25am
Quote (duffman316 @ Feb 22 2020 09:11am)
Endless lie sees nothing wrong about lying to congress
Who'd have thought


Just a difference in values.

He says it is ok to be lied to; cuck values.
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