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Feb 3 2020 06:00pm
Quote (MxVivianWulf @ Feb 3 2020 03:59pm)
Biden about to get FUCKING DUMPSTERED!


Voting hasn't even started in Iowa...go to sleep, you'll see the results in the morning.
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Voting hasn't even started in Iowa...go to sleep, you'll see the results in the morning.


Nah buddy. i got a charity stream to do for the Trevor Project. Gonna be up all night and we'll be keeping an eye on results as they come in.
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Quote (MxVivianWulf @ Feb 3 2020 04:04pm)
Nah buddy. i got a charity stream to do for the Trevor Project. Gonna be up all night and we'll be keeping an eye on results as they come in.


Well, if that's the case, you're in for an entertaining night!

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/02/03/us/elections/results-iowa-caucus-democrats.html?action=click&module=ELEX_results&pgtype=Interactive&region=Navigation
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Quote (thundercock @ 4 Feb 2020 00:06)


Thanks.

Yep. It's gonna be HYPE af!

Twitch is feeling the Bern for realsies.
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They’re a bunch of rich fucks who benefit greatly from Republican policies while also benefiting from fake identity politics outrage and easy fundraising.


i don't disagree with any of that. i'm still sure they'd rather see someone like biden / buttigieg / klobuchar do their dirty work quietly, maintaining a veil of civility and decorum while robbing the american people, rather than having a racist buffoon doing the same via division and appealing to the worst qualities in people...
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Feb 3 2020 06:37pm
Quote (excellence @ 4 Feb 2020 00:14)
they canceled that poll result for a reason, but i think it’s more due to unexpected poor performance by either Biden or Warren rather than good performance by Barnie


The results of that spiked Des Moines Register/CNN/Seltzer poll have been leaked an confirmed online:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/iowa-caucus-2020-election-live/

Clare Malone, 7:06pm:
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Nevertheless, a tweet made the rounds that night purporting to give the poll’s results, and after doing some reporting around this, FiveThirtyEight can confirm that it contains the correct final findings of the unreleased Iowa poll: Sanders 22 percent, Warren 18 percent, Buttigieg 16 percent, Biden 13 percent. Imagine the news cycle that would have been, with national front-runner Biden making such a poor showing in the last, highest-profile poll before the caucuses.


So, the theory from yesterday that some evil forces behind the curtain were holding back this poll based on a minor technical hiccup because Sanders was leading too much seems to have been off - it was done to prevent the public from knowing that Biden is cratering, lol.

He's strong in the South and the Democratic caucus electorate in Iowa tensd to be very liberal, so he certainly doesnt need to finish first or even second in Iowa to see his chances at the nomination intact - but finishing in 4th place with an abysmal 13% would probably sink his entire campaign. Even more so since 13% Iowa-wide would mean that he will be below the 15% viability threshold in a ton of precincts, so his SDEs would be even lower than 13%.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 3 2020 04:37pm)
The results of that spiked Des Moines Register/CNN/Seltzer poll have been leaked an confirmed online:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/iowa-caucus-2020-election-live/

Clare Malone, 7:06pm:


So, the theory from yesterday that some evil forces behind the curtain were holding back this poll based on a minor technical hiccup because Sanders was leading too much seems to have been off - it was done to prevent the public from knowing that Biden is cratering, lol.

He's strong in the South and the Democratic caucus electorate in Iowa tensd to be very liberal, so he certainly doesnt need to finish first or even second in Iowa to see his chances at the nomination intact - but finishing in 4th place with an abysmal 13% would probably sink his entire campaign. Even more so since 13% Iowa-wide would mean that he will be below the 15% viability threshold in a ton of precincts, so his SDEs would be even lower than 13%.



God I fucking hope he finishes fourth. Conservatives need to be routed out of the party and shunned.
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Feb 3 2020 06:42pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 3 2020 04:37pm)
The results of that spiked Des Moines Register/CNN/Seltzer poll have been leaked an confirmed online:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/iowa-caucus-2020-election-live/

Clare Malone, 7:06pm:


So, the theory from yesterday that some evil forces behind the curtain were holding back this poll based on a minor technical hiccup because Sanders was leading too much seems to have been off - it was done to prevent the public from knowing that Biden is cratering, lol.

He's strong in the South and the Democratic caucus electorate in Iowa tensd to be very liberal, so he certainly doesnt need to finish first or even second in Iowa to see his chances at the nomination intact - but finishing in 4th place with an abysmal 13% would probably sink his entire campaign. Even more so since 13% Iowa-wide would mean that he will be below the 15% viability threshold in a ton of precincts, so his SDEs would be even lower than 13%.

False. It was the Buttigieg campaign who didn't want it released. Please do not spread rumors!

Also, finishing at 13% means he would get 0 of the 9 statewide delegates. There's still 27 district delegates up for grabs. But anyway, 13% seems REALLY low in terms of a polling average for Biden. That doesn't mean it's wrong, but you should NEVER judge results based on a single poll. If Biden got a distant 4th in Iowa, I agree that his campaign would be in serious trouble. Biden needs to be competitive in every state through Super Tuesday to clinch the nomination.
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Feb 3 2020 06:48pm



No offense to the OP for an otherwise excellent thread, but...





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False. It was the Buttigieg campaign who didn't want it released. Please do not spread rumors!

Also, finishing at 13% means he would get 0 of the 9 statewide delegates. There's still 27 district delegates up for grabs. But anyway, 13% seems REALLY low in terms of a polling average for Biden. That doesn't mean it's wrong, but you should NEVER judge results based on a single poll. If Biden got a distant 4th in Iowa, I agree that his campaign would be in serious trouble. Biden needs to be competitive in every state through Super Tuesday to clinch the nomination.


If he's polling at 13% statewide, he would probably clear the 15% threshold in some precincts and could win at least some SDEs.

When it comes to the non-release of the poll: a Buttigieg supporter complained to Buttigieg's campaign that the interviewer conducting the poll didnt mention his name when reading names of candidates to her. The campaign then complained to the pollster, who said that the interviewer had just mispronounced his name. Either way, despite having zero evidence for this being a widespread problem and not just a one-off, they still decided to call off the entire poll because they "couldnt completely rule out a systematic problem". Pretty much everyone said that this approach was overcautious, and that releasing the poll with an asterisk would prolly have been the better decision.

Quote (Ghot @ 4 Feb 2020 01:48)
No offense to the OP for an otherwise excellent thread, but...

https://i.imgur.com/f5gDJT9.png


Yeah, time to go to bed old man. :P

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 3 2020 07:12pm
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